• Flying Squid@lemmy.worldOP
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    9 months ago

    Yes, using an almost exact Hitler quote is pushing the envelope because it’s a new level for him.

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      9 months ago

      It isn’t. He’s started his campaign with fascist rhetoric. He’s just saying with the emotion of a deranged fool and not the balanced charisma he had before.

      Edit: Nvm. I watched the actual video. He’s still got that contemplative attitude. He was being interviewed, after all.

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        9 months ago

        Because accusing the media of dishonesty is a perfectly defensible thing to do. The way Trump did it was indefensible, and reminiscent of lugenpresse, but this is a far more specific use of Nazi language and concept.

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            9 months ago

            They’re just happy. I don’t see any Nazi armbands or flags, so therefore it isn’t really a Nazi dogwhistle.

            #/S

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            9 months ago

            And while he’s cultivated these fans for obvious reasons, it’s harder to make that stick, because it’s them, not Trump.

            Again, fuck the Nazis, fuck Trump courting the Nazis with his Nazi rhetoric, and fuck the complacent press giving him a pass because Trump stories are a lay-up cash grab for them and the GOP benefits them - I’m being descriptive here not prescriptive.

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          9 months ago

          Ok, fair point. “Lying press” is a phrase harkening from the 19th C and questioning the integrity of the media in general is fine but for a president to do it as often as Trump did and for the obvious purpose of deflection and personal gain and whatever is, as you say, indefensible. Taken alone, “lying press” would be one thing but in context of everything else it’s hard to imagine he got the phrase from studying about its use prior to the 1930s.

          But I agree the blood thing is more unique to Nazi language and worldview. Trump continues to make it clearer and clearer what he is about.

          Hopefully anyone who cares to stop fascism isn’t waiting for him to start exterminating people en masse to be sure.

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      9 months ago

      You’d have to be dense to think this is new for him. Quit being naive