So here we go again…
Please direct all comments and links regarding the actual VOTING to this thread.
Edit
@TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee provided the live CSpan link!
Thank you!
https://www.c-span.org/video/?531158-1/house-session=&live=
1st vote count is in:
Hakeem Jeffries - 212 (217 needed to win)
Jim Jordan - 200
Steve Scalise - 7
Kevin McCarthy - 6
“Others” - 7
Jordan could have only lost 4 votes, he lost 20.
2nd vote came through, he lost 2 more votes. Will update when I get the actual breakdown.
https://apnews.com/house-speaker-live-updates-day-2
"The final vote was 212 for Democratic leader Hakeem Jeffries and 199 for Jordan, with others voting for alternatives.
The Ohio congressman lost 22 Republican votes, two more than in the first round and 18 more than he could afford to lose."
Full count here which is not CURRENTLY paywalled:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/10/17/us/politics/house-speaker-vote-tally.html
Jeffries - 212
Jordan - 199
Scalise - 7
McCarthy - 5
Zeldin - 3
“Others” - 7 (one each)
Edit 3rd vote for Thursday has been called off as Jim Jordan now supports expanding the powers of Speaker Pro Temp Patrick McHenry (R-N.C.) through January 3rd.
https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/speaker-of-house-vote-live-updates-10-19-2023/
It’s unclear when or if THAT vote will go forward as other Republicans oppose it, although it will only take a bare handfull, working with the Democrats, to make it happen.
The guy described HIMSELF as “David Duke without the baggage.” I’ve never seen a word do as much lifting as the word “baggage” as he used it.
I really want to know, what’s left when you take away the baggage from “David Duke”.
Did he have any redeeming qualities?
No.
It reminds me of that Christopher Hitchens quote. “If you gave Jerry Falwell an enema, you could bury him in a matchbox.”
Goddamn I miss Christopher Hitchens.
Who’s David Duke?
Failed politician and former Grand Wizard of the KKK.
So if you consider the Grand Wizard as the baggage, that leaves us with “failed politician.” If you consider failed politician as the baggage, that leaves the KKK.
So he’s a bright star for maga dumb-dumbs either way.
I consider the baggage to be the fact that people know David Duke was racist. Had they not known about the racism, he would not have baggage.
I think that is what Scalice was saying. He’s like David Duke except not everyone knows how racist he is.
He was the 1970s inspiration for men to wear really tight, closely-cut jean cutoff shorts.
I see ya down here, bud, and I liked the cut of your jib.
David Duke https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Duke - The first sentence: “David Ernest Duke (born July 1, 1950) is an American politician, white supremacist, antisemitic conspiracy theorist, and former grand wizard of the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan.”
You’re one internet search away from knowing.
Guarantee if you search that with no other context, the first result will be the right one.
So, the Republican Party is down with the KKK. The mask is off, isn’t it?
Will the “liberal media” please catch up?
Good people on both sides…
“Very fine people” even.
The liberal media are enablers, they’re not going to catch up.
I repeat, will the “liberal media” please catch up?
We’re gonna have a problem here.
the liberal media is too busy calling everyone who thinks a country shouldn’t cut off food and water to civilians is a terrorist enabler…
There’s only one person who deserves to be speaker.
HAKEEEEEEEEM JEFFRIES!
with a nice backup of Jamie Raskin
Scalise beat Jordan 113-99.
Democrats unanimously renominated House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, D-N.Y.,
To win the gavel, a candidate needs support from a majority of the House members present, meaning the eventual speaker will need 217 votes if every one of the current members votes and does so for a candidate by name. There are currently 433 members, with two vacancies, so a majority is 217.
If members are absent, or if some vote present instead of supporting a candidate, that decreases what the majority vote needs to be. The House is intended to have a total membership of 435 members, so a majority is usually 218.
I’m looking forward to watching the Democrats stay united behind Jeffries for every single vote. Again.
They will.
Steve Scalise barely beat Jim Jordan, who *if I’m not mistaken, is the guy that helped cover up a bunch of sexual abuse? That Jim Jordan?
It’s Gym Jordan. You don’t wanna keep confusing people what his name is.
Wait, Gym Jordan and Jim Jordan are the same two people, responsible for covering up multiple occurrences of sexual abuse at Ohio State University and also being a Republican representative?
Yes, his name is Jim Jordan, but the assaults he covered up happened in relation to an atheletics program, hence “Gym Jordan”.
It’s a long shot, but Moderate Republicans and McCarthy supporters could cast a vote for Democrat Jefferies as a FU to the Freedom Caucus. They would likely be able to get things done as a result.
Honestly, I’m really don’t understand why this didn’t happen last time.
Surely there have to be a few Republicans in Blue leaning districts that just barely got voted in and are at risk of losing their seat next election.
There is just so much to gain by putting country above party under those circumstances.
They’d lose their primaries. Republicans have gotten to the point where if you can win a primary, you can’t win the general unless it’s a red state.
Oh sweet summer child
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That will never happen. It’s much more likely IMHO for Democrats to throw some votes at a moderate Republican to get them over the line. Not Kevin, probably not Steve Scalise.
Becoming Speaker is only part of the story, though. The Speaker sets the agenda (meaning the day’s schedule) but that agenda is subject to a vote and needs a majority every single time. So any Democrats who support a Republican (or vice versa) would have to be relied on to vote in favor of that speaker’s scheduling, otherwise nothing can be scheduled.
Very unlikely to happen
Yes, it is very unlikely to happen, but still more likely than any Republicans voting for Democrats.
The only way one side is voting for the other’s nominee is if they get a deal with some real concessions. I don’t see it happening.
Meanwhile in Canada we just got free (covered) dental care for youth, and will be getting a pharmacare plan because 1 party needed the others support to govern and gave concession.
Imagine what they could actually do in the US if they actually worked together out of this madness.
Edit: There’s gotta be hundreds of things moderates in both parties could agree to as concessions for joint support.
Gotta try this guy at least a dozen times first.
Jeffries was picked by the House Democrats. It’s not a long shot, it’s 100% fever dream impossible that any Republicans would just vote for the Democrat option.
The long shot is getting a group of half moderate Republicans and half moderate Democrats and picking a Republican speaker who is moderate. That’s not going to happen either.
The barely realistic possibility of bipartisan Speaker votes is a few moderate Democrats vote for a Republican candidate.
Jeffries is probably closer than Scalise.
When they finally do a vote, I can see the ranking of Jeffries #1, Scalise #2, whoever else is dumb enough to run #3.
With none of them getting 217, but Jeffries hitting 209 or 210.
There we go! One of the Dems had the balls to call him what he is. A fucking insurrectionist. Fuck Gym Jorden and the Republican party.
Two of them, now.
Should be every single one, but I’ll take it.
Also, I’m surprised Gosar didn’t throw out a Sig Heil when voting for his fellow Nazi.
You all should see the picture in “Jim Jordan fails to win the speakership on first ballot” at CNN. Absolutely hilarious.
Oh man, my day has absolutely been brightened.
EDIT: Here, I’ll try posting a picture:
Looks like he gained 3 votes (including someone who wasn’t present yesterday), and lost 4, so he ended up at 199.
(John Boehner got a vote, lol)
As if Boehner isn’t blasting bongloads of dank bud in his shed right now.
He ain’t got time for this bullcocky.
At this point I’m just hanging out to see if he bleeds more votes which I think he will
AND HE DID! WHAT AN ACCOMPLISHMENT FROM THE ASSHOLE FROM OHIO!
I wonder if Scalise can beat McCarthy’s record fifteen votes? I’ll bet he can!
Groundhog day:
The House adjourned without a vote for a new speaker. The Republican caucus have not reached the necessary 217 votes within the conference to elect Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH), who leads in the GOP with 152 in favor. [link]
His supporters are arguing that going to a floor vote would pressure others to support him, but I’m not so sure.
This aged beautifully!
Really? What an excuse!
Jordan says he’s going to keep trying. $10 says he actually loses votes as this goes on
At least one member said they were switching from McCarthy to Jordan on the second vote, so sadly we’re probably not going to get a revolt.
Kowtowing to terrorists has worked so well for everyone that has ever tried. Good job Republicans!
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/10/11/us/house-speaker-vote-news
Speaker ElectionHouse Delays Vote on Speaker After G.O.P. Nominates Steve Scalise
It became clear after the No. 2 Republican in the House won a secret ballot to become his party’s nominee that he did not have the votes to win the gavel.
We’ll leave the Megapost up for now just in case there are some surprise midnight shenanigans, but nice catch!
And that’s a wrap: nobody got a majority. Looks like we get to wait for vote 2
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