It still baffles me that out of 535 house members, 8 of them are running the show
Put slightly differently. Eight members of the house can cause total gridlock because the other 427 can’t even countenance taking a single step of compromise - and not even compromise on an actual law - compromise on the person who presides over the process.
The problem isn’t really the eight. The problem is that the process has gotten so fucked we can no longer work around a 1.9% nut job rate.
Edit: math
While you are kind of correct, grouping the democrats in as part of the group that won’t compromise is not fair. They’ve come to the table with demands for compromise, and they didn’t start this problem so it’s not theirs to clean up. It’s the right and moderate right that aren’t compromising.
Indeed, the problem has been that Democrats have been compromising to keep the government running for decades, and it finally came to a point where the other team decided they could start getting away with anything.
Fault and fairness are irrelevant; they’ve never had anything to do with how government functions and damn sure don’t look to start mattering any time soon. A two party system this polarized simply will. not. work.
Which is exactly why it’s important not to bail the republicans out of their self imposed ongoing schism. They need to be broken up and that can’t happen unless they repeatedly fail to caucus together on even simple procedural tasks like electing a speaker. This is an ideal problem brought upon themselves to show they are already not a single unified party. Just a loose agglomeration of shit stirrers. Two bad kids in their granddad’s trench coat.
I certainly wouldn’t say that bailing them out is the best choice, either from a moral or a practical point of view. My point was merely that the eight nutters here are not the real problem. They are merely symptom of much more grave and perhaps systemic threats to the governmental system.
… which Republicans have a large hand in perpetuating.
I’m not saying Democrats are the saints and angels, but they’re a damn sight better than their red-faced counter-parts. What little enabling their members do pales in comparison to the enabling of the Republican party.
Wholesale change needs to happen. And moving The Leftovers party out of it’s middle-of-the-road approach is part of that, but it’s not even close to a majority. Trying to lump the two together as some sort of “everyone in government is bad!” approach is disingenuous and antithetical to seeking change.
If you want to see a solution, stop trying to generalize the problem. We’ve had generalized “solutions” for decades, and it’s done nothing but slow the degradation a little bit at best.
Your assumption that I’m making an argument to moderation is fundamentally incorrect and a little insulting.
You’re talking out of both sides of your ass.
They are relevant when it comes to elections. And that’s all that ultimately matters in our system.
Lol. Tell that to Al Gore.
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He was blamed for being boring, which he was. That was his fault. He didn’t contest Florida enough. That was his campaign’s fault.
I think the concept was that he lost even though he won.
It’s 435 in the house and 100 in the Senate.
You’re right. To be honest the website FiveThirtyEight always fucks me up on that number for some reason
In an ideal world, the speaker is supposed to be the most centrist person, but when you have parties of hardliners and refusal to make comcessions, you get the shit thats happening right now.
Oh ho! Wait til Fox News finds out about his tan suit! Oh man, they’re gonna drag him for weeks about that! Ha ha!
Ahh Fox News sure does hate tan suits. And news.
I bet he likes dijon mustard too…
God it’s so hard to believe that the same people who got outraged at Obama for having uppity fancy dijon mustard instead of honest earnest working class yellow mustard, would also go on to worship the man who shits in a golden toilet.
Only if your skin is darker than the suit
Including voting for Jeffries?
Own the libs by giving Jeffries the one job that no sane Republican wants
Remember when Republicans obsessed about running government like a business?
In the real world, this level of incompetence gets you fired.
It’s not incompetence; it’s sabotage.
Not when daddy owns the business.
Ha! You wish. It just as often gets you promoted.
Gaetz/Martian: Ack! Ack ack ack! Ack ack!
Reporter: Sir? We can’t understand you. Why are you talking like this?
turns top of his watch
Gaetz/Martian: TREASON! GAETZ NO VOTE! MCHENRY BAD!
shuffles off weirdly
You’re ruining that movie for me. I hope you realize that.
Lmao. Sorry. People see the five-head and see Butthead. I see a Martian.
I’m still in shock someone accepted money to sleep with that…thing.
Its so hard to parody republicans when the reality is them using light beer in their rhetoric of federal government operations
Gaetz is a fucking drunk that had his daddy make his DUI problems go away. I can’t say I’m surprised he relates everything to beer.
That’s was just weird to read
And the chaos continues…