Rogan promoted the conspiracy theory that Epps was an “agent provocateur” for the feds, a baseless claim that has led to a defamation suit against Fox News.
Stop paying attention to him. He was over validated as being a great interviewer, but that’s only because he created a safe space for right-wing reactionaries to pander to conservative bros. His takes are trash, his hyper masculine routine is tired and lame, and he is a regular source of immediately debunkable misinformation.
He’s a terrible interviewer. I attempted to listen to one of his podcasts many years ago because the interviewee was someone I was interested in. Joe Rogan quite obviously had no fucking clue about the specifics of why this person is notable, and his line of questioning was uneducated and irritating.
I never tried to listen/watch to Rogan again.
Spotify owns this mess.
Fucking Spotify using my money to pay this nutjob really pisses me off
Vote with your wallet. Deezer is pretty good. I switched to them when Spotify decided I needed Rogan in my life despite their algorithm undoubtedly indicating otherwise.
Recommend Tidal as well if you like smaller artists. The search feature is nowhere near as good, but the curated playlists seem better to me. And you’re top 2 artists of the month, I think, get 10% of your subscription fee directly.
I switched to YouTube music and have been happy with it. The family plan is about the same price as Spotify and includes YouTube premium which has been an unexpectedly nice bonus.
I’m kinda the opposite: I got YouTube Red (now Premium) to kill ads and got a music service for “free.”
With the added bonus of no Rogan.
Because alphabet are way more ethical than Spotify
Far far better. While still being problematic capitalist whores. Who will shamelessly chase attention clicks and money.
There is a lot of trash on YouTube. And some of it is even monetized. You can correct me if I’m wrong. But alphabet has not paid for exclusivity or sought out any of those trash makers. The evil Google does is pursuing engagement. And the best most assured way of achieving that is through controversy and outrage. Google is generally neutrally evil. And while evil. It’s still better then the other alternatives. Though I would genuinely like to see an alternative like peer tube someday be able to supplant them.
I will have to disagree. The reason alphabet don’t hire specific outrage manufacturers is because they already get their cut. They make a fortune from Jo Rogan videos and other conspiracy nuts through youtube. And they are more than happy to push these people to tops of our algorithms to capitalise
They’re not pushing it to the top of the algorithms. The algorithms are driven by engagement. And outrage is one of the most sure drivers. You’re attributing far more to Google than I think we can reasonably prove their involved in. Never attribute to malice what could be attributed to incompetence.
They are pushing it to the top of the algorithms. The algorithms are driven by engagement and outrage is one of the most sure drivers.
Google is more than aware that outrage makes money. It’s a bit like saying I work a day job baking cookies and do contract killing on the side, so I’m not as bad as the guy who does contract killing fulltime. While it is objectively better why bother defending it?
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It’s really nice to be able to watch YouTube on your TV and not have to deal with ads
Definitely. Between YouTube and my jellyfin server. I basically don’t watch any other streaming services or live television outside of Pluto, or the currently airing season of what we do in the shadows
I do encourage everyone to drop all Meta platforms, but generally speaking “vote with your wallet” is ineffectual.
There is no ethical consumption under capitalism.
Edit: choosing what makes you happier is never ineffectual, but capitalism is not a democracy. You can’t “vote” out a company by choosing not to use their product, especially when that company owns many of the options or has control over the majority of the market.
There is no ethical consumption under capitalism.
Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good.
How is voting with your wallet ineffectual?
There’s a confirmation bias at work here. The shitty things people didn’t pay for don’t exist.
Highly recommend piracy.
Then stop giving Spotify your money. Thats on you.
Yep it’s totally unnecessary to pay anyone for streaming music.
Just obtain your own MP3s of the music you prefer, and listen to those files on your device. It’s the 2000s way to music, and it’s still the best.
Internet connectivity is not available everywhere, so you may encounter areas that streaming doesn’t work. MP3 collections don’t have that problem.
You can also get your own Plex server or something like that if you really just want to stream your music. That’s another way to have your music on hand without bullshit subscriptions.
Then unsubscribe and stop whining? You have other options available.
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Stop paying for, and using Spotify. That way you know that you aren’t supporting him.
Guy that got paid to make contestants eat bugs and donkey dicks gets paid to make podcast listeners eat bugs and donkey dicks.
Guys this isn’t reddit. Can we just forget these losers and idolize at least different douchebags?
But it’s not a fact. Like, by definition, it’s literally not.
These fucking grown toddlers think anything that offends their feefees is bad, or wrong, or illegal. Because they have no coping mechanism beyond throwing a tantrum. Grow. the. fuck. up.
People that don’t share your views exist, and they are important too…
Rogan gets dumber all the time
What he doesn’t get is that you need a accompanying talking therapy if you make a show like that, personal invested and frequent. Even the most grounded character would start to drift, sooner or later. We are after all just human and nobody can fight that in the long run alone.
Same with his fans.
I hate Rogan oh I hate Rogan so much
I never listened to Joe Rogan, is his right wing leanings a newer development? Or has he always been in the “free thinker”, ie conservative camp? I saw a snippet of his show years ago, and it didn’t come across as politically charged, but it was a small snippet, and times have definitely changed, polarity wise.
Much like many self-identifying “centrists” he certainly likes to hang out with right-wing individuals and let them talk. He does sometimes push back, but his podcast does better when he doesn’t.
He is very right leaning, but interestingly, when he last had Bernie Sanders on, he claimed to be progressive.
Like all humans, he is complicated and doesn’t hold beliefs strictly to one side. He makes his money catering to the right, his personal views have likely shifted that way over time to match.
In the past, he had more interesting and varied guests, but those days are long gone.
I thought he was a libertarian, maybe? I used to listen to the podcast years ago but I feel like it got more political, he leaned more right, got more popular, repeat, until it was the number 1 podcast but idk
He had the number 1 podcast already when he has Bernie on and semi-endorsed him.
Covid seems to be what really broke his brain and pulled him right hard.
Who cares what this idiot says? I know plenty of idiots, why care about this one’s perspective?
Spotify doesn’t publicly release its JRE subscriber numbers. But sources clarified the show has been consistently growing since the podcaster joined the streamer and hasn’t spiked due to any particular event. By one recent estimate, Rogan typically averages 11 million listeners per episode.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/joe-rogan-spotify-subscribers-1235134232/
Any time someone on the internet says, “who cares what this idiot says” about someone prominent, the answer is always: millions of people.
Spotify is also paying Rogan $200 million for the honor of being the exclusive platform used to spread his disinformation, which is one of the reasons I prefer to avoid it. It’s bad enough they distribute it, but the fact that my subscriber dollars would directly be funding his bullshit just sticks in my craw too much.
Rogan is 100% of the reason my house moved from Spotify back to Pandora.
sadly true
Much like John Oliver’s Truthiness, Joe Rogan does a caricature of skepticism. He does the Question Things part, but then gets dazzled by whatever answers are spicy, instead of the most reasonable or likely.
On a completely unrelated note, I wonder what Joe Rogan would sound like after a year of sobriety from all recreational drugs, and bullshit supplements.
Joe Rogan is a cunt who straight up claimed that he knows for a fact “they put litterboxes in class rooms, because some kids feel like playing like cats”
even though in reality it was just put there so that in case of school shooting kids don’t have to pee on the floor.
then when called out on it, he just claimed “he was joking”
Colbert’s truthiness https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truthiness
What do you have against John Oliver?
Nothing at all. What I was trying to say was that Joe questions stuff, but that is the extent of his brand of skepticism. While on the surface, it may sound like (to his followers, possibly himself) he’s being a skeptic, his inability to accept a dull truth, in favor of fanciful claims means that he’s doing a caricature of skepticism.
It’s fake skepticism, and is a podcast/banter version of truthiness.
It’s a fact that Rogan is a brain-damaged conspiracy theorist
Rogan flips like a light switch. One day he’s all about the science and the next he’s got some mouth breather telling him the moon is made out of cheese.
He’s playing both sides. Like any corporation, the goal is money. He knows there’s money to be had from the right. He might be trying to get that tucker Carlson demo. Bringing in interesting guests like scientist, philosophers, etc. Just keeps the general public from leaving outright.
Yep, I’m honestly guilty of it as well, I like some of the guests he has on their for their stories. Usually I just watch the little clips of them at most.
He’s an attention whore. He says whatever gets him the most response but I think he’s sufficiently brain damaged to believe it in the moment, which is why he seems genuine.
Of course he’s brain damaged, this is the kind of political discourse that comes from a.guy who gets kicked in the head for fun.
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Remember kids, if you use Spotify; your coins are going to this ass hat.
This and lossless are 99% why I jumped ship to apple music. The other 1% is better artist payout.
Apple hosts Steve Bannon’s podcast fyi
The apple podcast app is free. Arguably funded by hardware sales of the devices it runs on. I don’t have any of those.
I didn’t say anything about their podcast app. How are you using apple music for free?
You mentioned Steve Bannon… Apple music doesn’t have podcasts…
It’s a good thing that Apple podcasts and Apple music aren’t intrinsically connected then, huh? They still platform him.
I don’t really see the difference between this and Spotify, but whatever.
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I actually cancelled my Spotify account over this ass hat.
They’re taking people’s love of music and using it to pay off a hate monger. The average payout for musicians has been declining for years.
