Are they for you? Why or why not?
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I think it depends on why you pirate. Are you doing it because you don’t want to pay? Then services like usenet and private trackers, where there is some expectation of payment (be it monetary or bandwidth) are probably not for you.
Do you pirate because you hate DRM and want to self host a robust media library that you can curate without fear of media being removed because of an expired license or something? Then you might be more into private trackers and Usenet. I spend almost as much on hard drives and Usenet subscriptions and PT donations as a Netflix account.
Or if you want films or série in a specific languages with decent quality and not too big file size
Not for me.
- My setup puts all external traffic from my torrent container through the VPN
- Getting into a private tracker is a pain
- Setting up the VPN exception is a pain
- I won’t even know if the tracker is worth it until I’m already in and can see their library
What are some good public trackers for movies and shows? With VPN enabled of course.
Btdig, not a tracker just searches DHT of other trackers
Just use I2P 🤷 It’s slow, but it’s safe
What’s that?
An anonymous network that’s better for P2P than TOR (qbittorrent supports anonymous torrents this way). Also allows hidden services like an alternative github, so they could host their code and other stuff their. That would make Nintendo’s tantrums and threats meaningless.
As somebody else posted https://geti2p.net
I just don’t have the time for it or well, I do, but I don’t wanna put effort into mantaining ratios and whatnot. I have stuff to do that I enjoy more than be part of a internet club.
But that’s just me.
Out of curiosity, what effort is needed to maintain ratio?
My experience is that just seeding what you like indefinitely is not useful. You have to be proactive and find popular torrents to seed and accrue any meaningful upload amount.
The tracker I use has a bonus point system to encourage all seeders even of unpopular releases but it’s slow.
I found that the perfect solution for my use case (music) ended up being Soulseek. I don’t have much money for seedboxes or buying extra storage so I feel like I’m priced out of private trackers.
At the very least, you need to keep an eye on it. Just seeding can be insufficent because of speeds, competition and popularity of things you download.
Is it a lot of effort? Probably no but in my case any effort is too much effort. Is just not my thing. I admire the spirit but I don’t have it in me.
They’re extremely good for higher quality content such as 4K REMUX files. I have access to a private tracker that I use regularly. I only search public trackers if what I want isn’t available in the private one…which is rare.
To me it’s not about price or openness or anything. Piracy is a service issue. Private trackers have better service than public trackers. Better curated content, better seeders, and fewer (if any) shit quality re-encodes by people who don’t know what they’re doing.
TL;DR: Great to have if you’re looking for less popular content, high quality files, and/or are concerned about copyright notices, but the rules that keep the niche content alive make them less appealing for super popular content.
I randomly made friends IRL about a year ago and got an invite to BTN & PTP. I don’t watch/download a lot of movies, so my account at PTP has lapsed, but I’ve kept my account with BTN.
From my recent searches, BTN tends to have higher quality files and more seeders than public trackers, but since a) I have a seed box, which provides a line of defense against copyright notices, and is only strengthened my my *aars (gets me in & out of the swarm before the studios find it), b) I usually can’t tell the difference in quality from the devices I’m using (and my friends/family most definitely don’t notice/care), c) seed ratio or time doesn’t impact access to public trackers, and d) I prefer to keep public torrents alive, I usually lean towards public trackers, and only use the private trackers for things that are harder to find and/or things I want in high quality.
I still try to seed to a minimum ratio of 3.0 on popular files (public or private), and ∞ for more niche files, but sometimes demand is so low, and I need to move files off of my seed box. While a ratio below 1.0 makes me feel “stuck” no matter where I got the file from, private tracker rules definitely amplify that feeling.I’ve never liked them outside of the niches the private trackers I had access to were about.
I’ve had one that sucked for anything other than music (and even the music was annoying because the uploaders had boners for FLAC and this was back when file size still mattered and FLACs are fucking huge and don’t sound different enough to warrant the file size), one that only hosted textbooks for college courses, and another that was strictly niche as fuck films that nobody has ever even really heard of.
It’s good to filter out bad actors uploading viruses, but it also limits how much stuff is there period.
ITT: the sourest of grapes.
It’s mainly all I use. The consistent quality is super nice. Though when PTP was down for a month or two I ended up back on Usenet too.
BTN and PTP aren’t hard to maintain ratio on.
Redacted can be a bit of a pain, and I’ve had to fix my ratio there a few times. But I had a few CDs from some small local bands I’m using Usenet more for music at the moment so lidarr doesn’t tank my ratio so quick.
I’ve been using private trackers since demonoid. Maybe I’m just a different generation, but I enjoy sharing stuff from my local library on private trackers. Torrents rarely fully die on private trackers. People will generally reseed if they have the ability. I can quality shop, and get things that are generally harder to find/request things that I can’t find anywhere.
It’s all I use. I feel like there’s less risk and they’re way more organized.
The organization and typical submission requirements are what really put them over public trackers for me.
Public tracker: It’s this big and this many files. Figure it out.*
Private tracker: All the metadata* Experience may vary. Post is overly dramatic for comedic effect
If you are forced to disable your vpn there is more risk. I’m not sure if some permit a vpn but I wouldn’t be trusting any of them without one.
I use a VPN and it’s on a kill switch, so if it gets disconnected for whatever reason, the machine can’t reach the internet at all.
I can’t imagine why a private tracker would disallow you from using a VPN
There used to be issues with tracking ratios when using a VPN. And since many private trackers require users to maintain a specific ratio, it meant that many private trackers effectively banned VPNs. Because if you were using a VPN, you’d be stuck at a 0.00 ratio and quickly get banned.
MAM used to be quite anti-VPN but I haven’t used it in years, so no idea what their take is now. They tracked quotas and stuff through your IP and required you to be online on IRC. Great content and community, but a lot of hoops to jump through.
Even with VPN, ultimately you’re still storing everything at your house. Seedbox, preferably in the Netherlands is the way to go.
Usually they want only your IP while signing up to be able to see if they had already banned you and you try to evade it.
Most times there was the rule that once signed up, you can turn it back on for both torrenting and browsing.
Same. Plus the quality encodes are a lot easier to find and more abundant (assuming you care about such things of course)
How do you get membership to a private tracker when they are always invite only?
there are trackers which has interviews for invites. from there you can start using, gain ranks and get invited to other trackers.
I was able to ask for an invite on a public forum, and I was able to use my demonoid (remember demonoid?) stats as proof back when they were semi private.
if you can show that you are a good and consistent uploader someone usually will sling an invite your way.
Making friends on sites like this can sometimes yield invites. There are also usually communities specifically dedicated to giving out invites. And if all else fails, some trackers have open invitations (either time-limited or with some kind of interview).
A common method is to get your feet wet with an easier to get into private tracker and use the invitation threads in it to get into the ones you want.
And how do you make friends on these sites?
Switch to Arch, obv.
I use arch (btw). Please give invite
Some sometimes open up for a time.
A lot of them have interviews in their IRC channel. That’s how I got into MAM.
So far there’s never been a thing I couldn’t find on a public tracker, so there was never a need to look into it.
I feel this way too, and the only people I’ve ever seen talk about private trackers have always had a weird chip on their shoulder. It has very “secret club” vibes. I know the stuff on public trackers only comes out because of scene leaks, but the scene wouldn’t vanish if there weren’t any more private trackers. Bittorrent was made for widespread public sharing without risk of censorship or takedowns, you don’t need to keep it hushed, it’s already protected against that. So private trackers have always just seemed like social clubs to me (I mean that in a bad way)
Yep, that and the fact that private trackers have buy-in or subscription fees and mandatory upload ratios.
I value the anonymity of a public tracker that doesn’t tie me down with any means of fund transfer or prolonged upload through which I could be exposed if my VPN dropped or the payment channel got compromised, crypto or not.
The ones that cost money aren’t worth using.
I would and for the most part have used private trackers for either a specific type of thing or a specific kinda obscure or not very popular title. I find that the more not well known a thing is, the more likely it’s going to be found and (re)seeded on a private tracker.
Exactly my experience. I’m in a private tracker for books and audiobooks that sometimes has content that’s not on other sites (audiobooks, in particular).
I also just joined a different private tracker that specializes in pre-organized .img files pre-loaded for emulation setups. Like, a one-file 1TB image ready to roll with everything preconfigured.
For popular TV/film, private trackers are unnecessary, unless maybe you’re very particular about 4K/8K REMUX quality or something more specific.
