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Who here is going to put their ID and photo on X/Twitter
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Twitter aside, if any website or app ever asks this of you, please nope the fuck out.
I guess it only occasionally makes sense for government web sites and banks. X might have ambitions to become a bank, so in that sense it might make sense.
So another piece of advice: if twitter ever asks you if you want to start using it for banking, nope the fuck out.
You Americans should get to this century and start performing digital strong authentications like the rest of us. Sending picture of your ID to anyone is insane :)
How we do it here in Finland is that there are digital identity providers which use bank/mobile carrier to identify you. They then use MFA when identifying you. Any service can use these services to do strong authentication for you. And they don’t cost anything for the customer, and is really cheap for the company who wants to identify you. It is also build into the law that you must identify people using these, to avoid identity theft.
We’re still trying to decide if slavery was wrong give us some time
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Have our country thinks that would be the mark of the Beast or some shit.
We have that
How doss your bank identify you?
When you walk in, the guy goes “hey Sam! I tupped your mom the other night.”
By the card they issued me when I opened the account.
But how did they authenticate your identity when you opened the account? I’d not trying to be an arse - but at some point it will likely have come back to matching some official photo id against your face.
It’s not like the bank KEEPS your ID
They once identify you from your driver’s license, government id card or passport. After that you for example link your smart phone to you, and you use their app when you identify.
You can also use mobile carriers, they send a push notification directly to you phone+sim. Not sure what protocol they use here, because it opens up an UI which is plain android, and asks pin.
Everything relays on chain of trust that since one service has identified you, the next can trust too. Plus there is MFA to verify that you actually made the identification request.
The initial argument was ‘sending is to anyone is insane’ but that’s what you do with the bank. Yes it’s only once - but that’s the same as the other systems we are taking about here.
I mean that’s how it’s like here in the States too. Show your paperwork at registration and that’s it.
He’s definitely pushing for Twitter to be the next WeChat.
Can’t wait for the social credit system
To follow his dystopian vision of Twitter as the Everything app, in the US it will have to be a bank at some point. The same way that Apple is now a bank in order to power parts of their wallet and payment platforms.
Idk, I’ve got my hands in a lot of financial cookie jars, and I don’t recall ever being asked for something like this. At the very least, not in this manner.
It’s pretty standard for European banks thanks to Know Your Customer laws.
If you keep in mind that it’s only done with special certified subcontractors, then yes. I would never give that information directly to a company like X. And yes, also those special companies are more times shady than they should be, but still.
Call it Twitter please
If you keep in mind that it’s only done with special certified subcontractors, then yes.
Dunno what you’re talking about here but I’ve had to go through something similar every time I’ve opened a new account with a financial service.
But yeah, I would not trust Twitter/X either. Musk is too much of an emotional child following whatever whim takes his fancy that day.
I know there’s a similar-ish process for accessing Spanish social security services online at least, and I believe it’s the same for some other services as well.
Then again, Spanish public services are not exactly the gold standard for digitalization.
Wait are you Spanish too? Those websites look like they’ve been made by a secretary’s cousin that only knew how to copy and paste in the 90s
I just have a few Spanish friends! And from what they’re telling me that’s probably exactly how these websites were made.
I mean, most public computers are very old too. Like 20 years old at leat
I have the opposite experience but maybe it’s just different in the EU
Yeah, PayPal sure as fuck ain’t a bank. And the same douche started that.
The only government function that has ever wanted a “selfie” was for my drivers license and passport. Both of which feature that picture. But I’ve never done either through a site.
It’s stupid as well, because it’s impossible to authenticate an id or passport from a photo. You can just photoshop something and send that in.
incorrect. it is actually fairly easy to authenticate an id or passport from a photo. Photoshopping something is easily spotted by a trained eye. Source i work as a document expert for an online ID verification company. the amount of fakes we spot each day are fairly large and its not all automatically processed. Also for those people that don’t know where there data is proccesed. there are actually a lot of laws in place to protect your data for example for EU citizens
So just … photoshop and print a fake ID and ask a stranger to take a picture with it.
I doubt you will see the ID clearly enough to make out the photoshopped parts.
nah thats why we reject on bad quality if we can’t see all the sec features or if documents are printed or on a screen. Things like laser engraving are actually easy to see the difference between Photoshop and real.
Sure, a bad photoshop can be spotted, but you can’t spot it if the forger put in just a little bit of effort. The fact that you can spot some fakes doesn’t mean you spot all fakes.
Hence why we have minimum picture quality were we reject if too low quality plus in 6 years of working i have only seen a handful of fraudsters put in effort. most don’t put in effort and are either shoddy photoshops or people use camouflage passports(aka passports from non existing countries)the thing is that most printing techniques are easily visible on official passports. things like laser engraving and embossing are hard to photoshop and if people try they often look digitally replaced. But for doing my work it also has made we agree that not all companies need every data you have. But yes it does hell that i have done Print design before this job so know about how things are printed plus knowing how photoshop works
Then nope the fuck out of Hetzner then. They asked that of me.
Strange, I don’t remember them asking me that.
Outside of services where you need to access it (ex. school / exams / government services), one beneficial one might be dating apps. There’s an advantage to being verified.
Although none of them ask for ID from what I understand, just “hold up 3 fingers and take a touch your nose” or something…
YouTube does this sadly.
Seriously???
Only if you want to watch adult-themed videos, which they have been more lenient towards after the introduction of YouTube Kids and this measure. NewPipe and
yt-dlpcan still stream them, though, and you could also interact with the video (like, comment, save to playlists) using the official frontend last time I checked.More lenient?!
I like to watch people playing Hearts of Iron 4 (a WW2 strategy game) and most of the creators avoid saying “Hitler” to avoid getting demonetized and hit with an age check.
It’s getting a lot worse.
What I meant is that fewer videos get removed when age-restricting them is an option. Demonetization of any keywords relating to objectionable topics is still ridiculous, though, especially when the company has major AI research labs that could figure out how to differentiate between use in historical context and propaganda. However, that does not pay the bills and they don’t need more users & creators to be happy about the platform.
PayPal did and I need this service for almost any online purchase. Credit card is uncommon here and expensive. :/
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This.👆
Don’t do this. Delete your Xitter account and use Mastodon instead.
Xitter
In my head that’s pronounced “shitter”
That is indeed my intent.
I’m seeing equal parts shitter and exiter.
Man I never had a Twitter account to begin with, lol. Any Internet site that wants my ID can eat a dick instead because I will straight-up close that tab and 360 moonwalk right out the door.
- While “Safety Dance” plays faintly in the background.
This is the right answer.
I got a mastodon, but there’s nothing there.
Do you mean nothing as in your feed has barely any posts? Or nothing as is there’s no one interesting to follow?
do what i did: bring your friends :>
Friends?
Give it time. With both Xitter and reddit trying to kill themselves, and Threads dead on arrival, adoption of both Lemmy and Mastodon is going up.
Xitler?
90s: stay anonymous, be careful with strangers, don’t give up any more info than you have to. The internet can be a dangerous place. Also, supervise your kids and have them ask permission to go online.
2010s-2020s: livestream your life 24/7, use real names and emails everywhere when signing up for bullshit, hand your kid a phone and let them go buck wild as well.
It’s also ironic that the same generation of parents telling us to be careful online and “don’t believe everything you see on TV” are the same ones that get their news from grifter pundits and divisive facebook memes generated by Russian bot farms.
It’s remarkable isn’t it? Now we’re the ones telling our parents to turn off the TV and get off the internet or it’ll rot their brains.
growing up these days includes realizing your parents are shameful hypocrites who are knowingly destroying the world
Boomers love to give advice and they hate to follow it—even their own!
I still sign up for websites with the following credentials:
Joe Blow 6969 Penetration Ave Beverly Hills, California 90210
I usually use the email “NoneOfYourBusiness@fuckoff.com”
governments and politicians got their hands on it
I miss the 90’s, a better time for sure.
Feels quite dystopian at the moment.
Man, Elon’s got one hell of a boner for WeChat, huh? I honestly feel embarassed for him. WeChat is WeChat because it’s Chinese – there is no secret formula for Elon to steal. The circumstances which created WeChat simply do not exist in the west and IMO it should stay that way.
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There is absolutely 0 chance I’m sending any documents to the clown in chief
Don’t worry… they are probably going to a “trusted” 3rd party service ;-)
It’s right in the fine print. “Au10tix”, lmao.
Of course there’s an X in the name
elons going to be running X like the hudson construction company
can i just draw an ID in crayon and send in a selfie of me wearing my sick shades and an N95 mask?
can i just draw an ID in crayon and send in a selfie of me wearing my sick shades and an N95 mask?
The chief twit.
But what about Elon?
I mean if you want your identity to be stolen, theres other equally fast ways
Nobody noticed “Be prepared to take a sefie” !?
I can guarantee that this was pushed out the door without any actual forethought or planning. Because Elon probably decreed that it had to be done now, so the devs were forced to push to prod without any actual testing ahead of time.
not my frist language, what’s wrong with it?
Just a typo, should be “selfie”. Indicates poor quality control.
Online banks use this method. I am not happy with this either. It’s government-regulated, so OK (sort of).
A social media site? No, thank you.
Banks are usually bound by KYC (know your customer) laws and are required to verify your identity. Imagine trusting some random third-party company with your photo ID though… Insane.
actually, two companies.
you give up your id forever to an id verification company + twitter stores it for 30 daysWell it’s obvious that Musk wants X to be a bank, so this isn’t unexpected.
yeah, that’s obvious. you need a photo of your id in order to open a bank account…
they usually process the data on their own though without using third parties
Exciting times for hackers !
Not only would you lose your SSN as an american citizen, you would also lose your credit score due to automated identity theft and possibly your mortgage (and more!)
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“By using this site, you waive your right to local EU and UK laws”
It doesn’t work like that, but I bet Elon will try.
Besides some countries in the EU already have electronic ID identifiers. They can just contact them to verify I’m claiming who I am without this weird “yeah we need a picture of you, and look through your webcam”. Banks don’t need to do this to verify who I am, so I don’t see why “X” needs this weird privacy invading process
Thankfully I don’t care about X (lol), and with more and more of my industry moving to mastodon I’m quite happy that I need it less and less to keep up with papers and articles
Elon wants this so he can make teslas self driving hit specific people using face recognition
Almost like 98% of their engineers are gone.
GDPR would definitely prohibit transferring the ID data to third parties outside the EU. They could replace this mechanism with European ID verification services (via eID or video verification). But I can’t imagine many people would go through that hassle, just to keep using Twitter/X. Then again, this Elon man is a literal fountain of terrible ideas, so who knows at this point.
In EU there are ways to verify yourself online, for instance if you want to get a credit card, etc. This is normally handled by a third-party, which more or less just checks per webcam if the info they got from the other company is the same as what you show them. I don’t see any privacy issues here, that I wouldn’t have seen in processes of other companies, that already do something like this.
This isn’t something new and I would guess that this is the case with most modern countries.
Well facebook already asks you to verify with ID in Europe, has been doing that for years
I am going to continue not having an account and not having to deal with this.
As soon as this is mandatory it’s bye bye for my Twitter account. I don’t use it for the most part anyway.
I just remembered this might be illegal in the EU. A digital service company is not allowed to process identifying information unless in very specific circumstances (e.g. online banking or government processes).
That’s straight up incompatible with GDPR in my opinion.
Obligatory IANAL.
Same
Ah yes, just take a photo of your id. Surely X can be trusted, right… right guys?
Sure it can. Just wait 'til it also becomes your banking app, keeping your money totally safe, then you’ll be able to double trust it. Would space karen x ever lie to anyone? /s
Of course she wouldn’t lie to anyone. Just wait 'til your totally safely kept money becomes programmable by central banks, regulating where you can spend it, when you can spend it, what you can spend it on, and builds a neat profile of yourself linking every single activity you do, online and offline. We wouldn’t want any terrorists or bad citizens to be out there now, would we? /s
If they ever have a data breach I’m sure they’ll totally do right by the consumer also 🙄
Wouldn’t trust this clown with my digital words, let alone a copy of my actual ID
Au10tix
I wonder if Elon demanded they use this company for identity verification because of their creative use of the letter X
Au10tix
Autistic
Come ON!
French spotted
Negative.
Hmmm Spaniard?
(in Spanish): No
2 down, 193 countries left.
Thanks Yakko! 😂
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I absolutely would not dismiss this. In fact if you spun up a company that complimented Elon’s, he would 100% return your call I feel lol
Why would anybody do this?
That’s literally what I thought about installing Chrome and sharing my browsing history with Google. Why would I get Facebook a account and share my name, my face and my daily activities with the entire world. I thought that this is just pure insanity, and nobody will ever go along with this level of stupidity. Oh, boy was I in for a surprise.
Look who is laughing now that Chrome is the number one browser and many websites are only tested on Chrome. FB has so many users that people it’s really odd that I’m not there with everyone else.
Elon promised that if you sign up for a paid premium account and it gets a lot of engagement, then X will give you money. There are a lot of fools who will gladly share their ID for free money. Of course, the money will never come, but that won’t stop the suckers signing up for this.
Commence operation dick pic
