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        It’s terrifying if you consider the norm. Trump has something like 70+ felony counts, arguably the worst orator in history, and a verified rapist.

        He’s still getting around 35-40% support consistently.

        It’s fucking terrifying how good the Fox propaganda machine is.

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          Some people process loss or being lied to in different ways. And some people take time to process that loss more than others.

          Denial: The election was stolen!
          Anger: We have to storm the capital!
          Bargaining: We were just trying to protect our democracy.
          Depression: Biden is just as bad. <----- Most people are here.
          Acceptance: Trump committed election fraud and is going to prison for it

          Though I think many MAGA folk will be stuck on depression for quite some time.

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          When you consume talk radio, Facebook, and Fox News, it understandable that you would think he is the greatest President ever. He’s not, he was the worst President ever.

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        I agree with you. Virtually everything l, even random totally trivial matters of taste/opinion come out 50/50 these days. The country is deeply polarized. For anything to come out with a 2:1 margin is a landslide. Trump is a huge loser. I just hope he stays in the race long enough to sink the Republicants.

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      You’re saying that about a population that literally voted this guy into office just a few years ago.

      If people haven’t realized how dumb our society is after that, there’s not much hope.

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    The guy attempted a coup. He should be on trial for his life right now… and still 30+% of Americans might support him.

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    I guess that’s a good thing, but that % should be way higher for someone that committed treason, among numerous other crimes (as well as being just a terrible person in general.)

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    Other way to read this headline:

    36% of Americans are equal parts moronic and clinically insane

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      74 million people voted for him in 2020…which is about 22% of the population of the US in 2020. Now 36% would support him. I realize the two numbers aren’t directly comparable because only 67% of the people who could vote in 2020 did (and that was the highest it has been since 1980), but it’s still not a great feeling.

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      I feel like ~1 in 3 people being selfish assholes kind of checks out, though. It’s a trend I really noticed during Covid.

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        Let’s hope the day never comes, but I’m genuinely curious what would happen if that massive imbalance type of scenario occurred.

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        Having an election system where the majority of the votes doesn’t win is blatantly undemocratic and downright insane. As evidenced by the last two times that happened in the US.

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      Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but there are absolutely that mouth breathers in the US. A few months ago I drove by a fucking Trump rally that is held weekly out in some rural parking lot in Washington State, sans Trump.

      I have two neighbors with a let’s go Brandon banner plaster to the front of their house. Another guy ran for city council on a platform to mandate all teachers to carry AR-15s at school. There’s a lot of bananas bullshit out there still. These people believe that the United States is a failing state and the only way to save it is to kill liberals.

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      I was curious about who the 64% of Americans are, because I’ve never done a poll in my life. This is what I found:

      NORC gathers data for the polls through its probability-based AmeriSpeak® Panel, a breakthrough survey approach that achieves an industry-leading response rate and includes difficult-to-reach demographic groups, such as rural and low-income households.

      For AmeriSpeak’s Omnibus survey, 1,000 nationally representative adults age 18 and older are drawn from the AmeriSpeak Panel and are interviewed online and by phone.

      The people that are drawn from the panel are all preregistered. So these people sign up, and are asked questions every month. The same people. Every month. Then they do some sort of probability math on those numbers and run it as a news story.

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        That’s how polls work. I’m not sure if you genuinely don’t know, but that’s just how they are done.

        You can very accurately extrapolate data on the entire population with just 1000 participants. The flaw is in geography distribution, population distribution, willingness to poll, and other types of sample bias, but if they account for those then that’s perfectly valid.

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          I did not know. That’s why I said I didn’t know and looked it up, and then shared the info i found :)

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            Good on you for looking it up. I’ve seen so many comments from people who don’t look it up and just go “they only asked 2000 people so this is bullshit”. I initially had thought your original comment would be just another one of those till I read it all.

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    Yeah, screw that. Don’t trust polls, vote like your democracy and your life depend on it.

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      Not to mention they get up to 3x electoral college voting power depending on how empty their state is.

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      truly sad state of things. It’s disinformation like none other. These people are completely oblivious to the facts of his criminal activities because the media they consume is only focused on cultural issues. It’s literally all they see. They have no ability to look things up or fact check or think beyond whatever their pod casts are telling them.

      It’s such a bigger issue about this country as a whole. Education has failed so many. Those same people will vote for people that want to further erode education. They also have lots of kids and groom them to believe nonsense and deny education’s importance. They attack teachers and doctors as being “woke” etc…

      I hope we can come back from this, but the reality is it gets much worse from here.

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    So 36% of Americans are fucking dumb. Which is lower than I would’ve guessed.

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    Just a reminder that Republicans have won the popular vote once in the last 30 years, despite holding office for 12 of them.

    What a majority of people want doesn’t really matter in our system.

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    Just about every poll about Trump vs Biden, Hillary, or any other democrat, or an issue where dems and repubs are split down party lines, typically shows a 60-40 split, sometimes 61 or maybe 62% against Trump after bad news about his latest exploit. So seeing that 64% of Americans will either “definitely not support” or " probably not support" another Trump term (compared to 54% again Biden) shows a shift in public opinion in the last few months. It will be interesting to watch whether the trials further this trend, or if he regains some popularity assuming he avoids conviction in one or more jury rooms.

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    How many will turn out to vote though?

    I can sit on my couch all day disapproving Trump, but if I don’t cast a ballot then my opinion doesn’t count for much.