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I get this comic which is about translation errors.
Comments are wildly off …
…BASE!
Clearly the human uses base 22.
“2.5, 5, 7.5, TEN! See?”
This cartoon is incomplete. Suck my cock all the way down to the base is the end.
every base is not base ten, and i will fight you on this one.
binary is base two, or as i like to refer to it, the power of 2 base.
/r/swoosh
PS: Is there an equivalent in Lemmy for this yet?
waiting until people realize i said ten, instead of 10.
Ok then. In english, what would you call 4 in a base-4 system?
quad would be the formal root, so something based that, you could do a french thing where you go “half octal” you could just not use it because it’s a crime against humanity, and the joke here is dependent on the specific telling of the statement.
So, when you see 10 in base-4, you’d say “Quad”?
You said ten, the joke didn’t.
yeah, and weird story, i’m not the joke.
In every base, a 1 in the second spot corresponds to the name of the base.
🤯
Wow I never thought about that.
But it is always like this:
let there be any base "b" That can represent a number by the sum of their positional digits: number = sum(d_i * b ^ i) where i is the position index and d_i is the digit at this position. (note: index starts with 0, from the least digit farthest to the right)So the (decimal) number 4 in base 4 is then
1×4¹ + 0×4^0 = 10And (decimal) number 8 in base 8 is
1×8¹ + 0×8^0 = 10And 10 in base 10:
1×10¹ + 0×10^0 = 10Which is why to write hexadecimal, we added letters to it, because there isn’t a digit for “12”.
All your bases belong to 10
All your base are belong to 10
You have no chance to survive make your time.
Someone set us up the base!
Can we all use base 12?
It will be a shower if shit for like 50 years but then it will be marginally better for pretty much everyone.
so, 60 years in base 10
Why base 12 though? Base 16 is even better. And base 60 is even better than that!
Common denominators. You can divide base 12 into half, thirds, fourths, and sixths and still use integers. I find thirds to be particularly useful, so base 16 is out. Base 60 can do it, but that’s getting unweildly.
There are no common denominators in base 12 that you can’t use in base 84, and the latter also has 7 as a common denominator.
I, for one, vote for changing our base to 84.
Can’t do base 12 on fingers. I prefer base 8.
You can do base 12 on fingers! You count each of the 3 segments on each finger and ignore the thumb (you can use it to keep your place), so you can count up to 12 on just one hand! :)
This is why I’m not totally sold on the idea that we use base 10 because we have 10 fingers. There are a lot of ways to count with your fingers. Plus, there are many cultures throughout human history that use something else. Base 10 in modern times might just be a historical quirk.
iirc, the reason that time is base 60 is because some ancient peoples figured out how to count to 60 on their fingers.
I can count to 1023 using both hands but only to 31 using one.
8 fingered Johnny…
Base 6. One hand and a arm. Let’s me get all the way to 41.
Base 69?
Nice
Or better yet, base 6?
Some people argue that it would be harder to count on your fingers but we could just surgically give everyone more?
Binary is very good for counting with your fingers. With both hands you can count to 1023. One hand is 31, which is still usually more than you typically need to count. It’s also trivial to do once you know how binary works. It takes very little thought, though potentially the decoding could take a bit depending on your proficiency.
I made it to 27 on my first attempt, so def messed up somewhere. Also, my fingers don’t want to work that way.
Doable.
I agree it can feel weird, but first this isn’t how we are used to doing it so it hard to compare, and also normally we want our fingers in very precise positions (probably because it’s easier to show other people). When doing binary I feel it’s easier to ignore precise positions. I just use the half of my finger after the middle knuckle and let my fingers move as they please. We only need to track up or down, so it doesn’t need to be precise.
Practice helps. I’m not good at it, but I can manage it fine at this point. For sure it’d doable, but I rarely have to count, and when I do I can generally do it in my head fine. I could see myself using it maybe if tracking a large number over a long time, but I don’t see that case ever coming up organically.
There are 12 sections on your fingers (excluding your thumb) you then use your thumb to count to 12 on one hand.
Two hands can allow you to count to 24. Which is way higher than 10. Base 12 is better!
Bold of you to assume I’d ever remember this counting technique. Hell I’m shocked I remember counting my fingers for base 10…
Binary’s the way. 1023 with 10 fingers
I like the idea of some numbers being popular hand gestures.
4 - Fuck you; 17 - Shaka (hang loose); 18 - Metal horns; 19 - “I love you”; 132 - Double fuck you
To be fair, you should be comparing 2 hands in base 12 to 2 hands in base 10, I. E. 20:24. Still a real difference, but not the 10:24 difference you pointed out.
With 2 hands you can count to 144.
- 12*12 on one hand + 12 on the other one
Billions of years ago, our collective great-great-great-[several million more]-grandparent evolved a fin with a five bone structure. That idiot didn’t know anything about common denominators, and now we’re stuck with this numeric system that can’t divide things into thirds without causing issues.
When was the last time you’ve actually needed to count something on your fingers?
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Edit: 👌🏻 days ago
50 years? We can’t even switch to metric.
Every civilised country on earth uses metric.
Only the really shitty ones use imperial. Imperial is just stupid (unless you count in base 12 ironically)
This would be great. I was researching why we don’t have 10 based clocks and then I saw a video about why a 12 and 60 based system is actually much more convenient and now I would love a ‘dozen based metric system’
nah we should use binary, anything else is cringe.
42* years. Centuries are now 84 years. We are living in the 19th century! I rate this idea 12/12.
5/7 movie
shut the f*k up rob
50 years? I bet we couldn’t even agree on how to write “11” & “12” on such short notice. (See: date format, encoding, etc)
we could just go with the hexidecimal way and go with A,B,C for 10,11 and 12
That’s pretty confusing in algebra, maybe normal sentences too
No, 12 in base 12 is 10, not C. But yes, 10 can be A and 11 can be B
Dude’s out here trying to get us to use base 13.
Why not?
Why not use a large prime as the base?
Lets use base Pi and put an end to that infinite digit bullshit.
Ahh yes, let’s introduce floating point rounding errors for one half. Sounds fun.
Honnest answer, 1/2 in DEC is 0.5 easy. 1/2 in base 13 is .6666666666… Easy but ugly. You want a base that has comon fractions easily represented by decimals. People like dozenal since many fractions are easily represented. 1/2 = 0.6, 1/3 = 0.4, 1/4 = 0.3
I’m personally a fan of hexidecimal partly because I’m a programmer and partially because it can be halved several times
Is 1/2 in base 13 not 0.65?
it’s almost like you’d have to use a different notation system to express a different base…
Why use a fixed base? Or why not use an irrational number like e, the most efficient base
I still think some largish prime, like 37 hits the perfect spot of being usable enough for people to use, but still useless enough to stop almost everybody from learning any advanced math.
But yeah, making integers non-representable is a serious trade-off that deserves consideration.
The current standard seems to be an upside down 2 and 3
An upsidedown 3 is just a 3…?
Rotated, not flipped.
Well we write 12 like this: 10
It’s easy
oops I mean “10” & “11”
Base is for running on after hitting the ball.
There are 10 types of people: Those who understand binary and those who don’t.
And those who didn’t expect the joke to be in base 3
You forgot the ones who expected it to be in base 4.
i still dont understand the joke…
In any Base-x system, one digit goes up to x - 1 (with base > 10 we use alphabet letters), then the next digit (to the left) is incremented.
So in our normal Base-10 system, you count up from 0 to 9 and then add a digit in the front and reset the other digits to get 10.This means, that in every Base-x system ‘10’ equals x.
So you can make the “There 10 types of people …” with every base as ‘10’ in Base-2 means 2, 3 in Base-3 and so on.
Based.
- This is why I say “10” is not a number, it just means one big group and zero remainder.
- I am a huuuuge proponent of dozenal (base-12)
Took me a moment
not base 1100; and it’s round!
The most reliable way to communicate bases would probably be using unary. Now if your alien is using unary, that might not work, but it should for all higher bases.
I’m not sure if I fully understand.
I was thinking, wouldn’t it be easiest to describe the system you use by taking the last number in your first decimum and then saying you increment it with one?
E.g. for base ten this would be: base 9 + 1
For binary it would be: base 1 + 1
For hexadecimal it would be: base F + 1
Etc.But if you’re talking to an alien that uses base 4, they don’t know what you mean by “base 9+1”. Wtf is a 9?
Yes. Although at least you will both be aware that you are using different systems
