This is affecting many PC gamers around the world, such as myself, as the last 3 PlayStation releases on Steam have been blocked in many countries. I wanna know what’s your take on this. Please be respectful, and thank you. 😊
Sony is testing the waters with trying to console-ify/enshittify PC gaming, for now it’s making a PSN account and living in an “approved” country, next it’s going to be paying online subscription services to play PSN games. My thoughts are game developers and consumers should avoid Sony like the plague (and request refunds / class legal action in cases like Helldivers 2 where it was introduced after the fact), there are better publishers; and if you can afford it, self-publishing.
Honestly this behaviour comes off as some way to enact a loss leading strategy. Thing is, I can’t figure out what they would be trying to sell here?
Like making everyone use an account for Sony games does not lessen the blow of potentially paying for online, or using a hypothetical PC Sony store, or buying a PS5. It honestly feels like they’re just incredibly out of touch and don’t understand what the hell they’re doing.
I respectfully think you’re an idiot if you buy psn games on steam with the current situation, respectfully.
You missed the main issue my friend, it’s not about having a launcher or an account, it’s the way their doing it.
Will the games still run on linux?
Rockstar, EA, Ubisoft, Epic, Blizzard and probably some more all make you use their launcher/account as well. Sony doing it is no different. Doesn’t make it the nice thing to do but it’s the sad reality of PC gaming. The price of flexibility is having to deal with tons of accounts (or piracy).
No, that’s the price of consuming content from exploitive corporations that leverage capital against you to better exploit you. Stop being a class traitor.
Well, unless you exclusively play games made by small indie studios and that are distributed directly, that’s still the price you need to pay if you want to consume said content while playing on a PC. Or you pirate and thus don’t support the people who created it. I don’t like that situation either and there are some developers I definitely won’t support with my money. However, that decision isn’t based on the need for some account, when it’s trivial to make one. That’s annoying but the dealbreakers should be scammy, unfinished games, predatory, gambling-like micro transactions, bad company culture, etc, not the need to have a burner email account.
Yes, unless you exclusively give your money to people who aren’t exploitative and abusive, you get fucking exploited and abused, and contribute to others getting exploited and abused. It’s 1 + 1 = 2. You’re making it way more complicated than it needs to be. But yes, it’s something you have to be mindful of ALL the time.
We know that Sony has done or does almost all of those things, or worse. You’re defending your abuser. This is a common pattern that many many people demonstrate. Break out. If you think the abuse is going to stop with “needing to have a burner account,” you’re fucking lying to yourself and you probably know it.
Common anti-consumer move by huge companies against the consumers who made them rich. What’s new?
It’s PC, man. why are you hobbling yourself, giving a shit about retards?
I’m more upset by the strategy of putting the first game of a series on PC but not the followup games. I’m not getting Rebirth on the PS5 when I got the first one with my save file on PC even though I have a PS5 and it’s very doubtful anyone already on PC without a PS5 is gonna go out and buy a PS5 just for a sequel or two.
Meh, more money I get to spend elsewhere which is exactly what they care about.
The PS5 doesn’t have a web browser. What CPU+GPU Sony makes you pay for the PS5? Well, if your PS5 is turn on and you want to check a web page, you’d better take a cheap android phone out (heck, a old blackberry would do) so you can check the website you want to… because your PS5 can’t.
Sony, simply, live in another universe… they still have pockets to buy game studios and bribe exclusive in our dimension, but they simply don’t actually exist in our reality. That’s all I can think about Sony and their commercial practice: they take money from our reality (fewer and fewer each year), but they have no idea why.
They probably removed the web browser because the PS3, and PS4 have both been hacked through it. So instead of fixing the exploits they just said screw it and just removed it.
I agree. Incompetence is not an apology for their mistakes, instead the fact that Sony don’t address their security issues make it even worse.
Funny part is, the browser most likely still exists in some aspect, probably through the manual section or something like that. So the PS5 will provably also be hacked through the WebKit. Lol
That’s stupid but completely irrelevant.
And I kinda get it. I doubt lots of people would use it for the amount of support the browser would need over time.
You can find a decent web browser on… basically anything: cheap smartphone, cheap smart TV (even non android/apple ones) and… Well, basically anything but Sony. Also Sony is the company that leaked customers private data. They are just incompetent.
But the omission for a web browser count more on the fact that you can play webgl videogames for free (instead spending on their store) than any security concern they may have (force customers to make PSN accounts after they were repeatedly breached is tell-tale about their security concerns)
I have a PSN account through owning a PS3/4. I don’t have anything against using it on the consoles since you’d need it to use their online services through there. On Steam however it seems like it’s just a means to track you and I’m not willing to do that lest it gives Sony the idea to start its own platform like Origin or Uplay/Connect.
I have a psn account, I own a Playstation.
I don’t like the slow march towards all our activities being constantly monitored by someone.
I won’t be buying any pc versions of Sony games and adding my psn account to it.
Especially with PSN being a paid service and I’m sure their goal is to charge for access and all pc games will become subscription ontop
This right here is the only thing I’m worried about
Well Sony can do whatever they wish but that doesn’t mean I have to do what they want. Normally ignore any Sony related games nowadays.
I honestly could give a shit. You think games don’t report telematics internally back to devs? Who share them with publishers anyways?
Valve has so much telematicd data on you it’s insane. Same with other companies. Sony just isn’t good at burying the lead.
At the end of the day it’s the same as a GOG Account, an Epic Login, or a Ubisoft Account. They all exist and we lost this fight when we allowed giant super publishers to merge and control distribution, and when no alternative to steam has ever got off the ground.
Say what you will about Epic, but it is by f as R the closest anything is to breaking Valve’s iron grip, and it’s still a distant second place also ran.
So yea, Sony requires a login. I wish they didn’t, but literally everything does besides GOG. They all use Denuvo and DRM and lock the exe to the client. Sony doing it to run their leaderboards at least makes some sense.
why force an account AND restrictions upon us then
surely they could be collecting their damn data without all this attention?
Could or couldn’t give a shit?
