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    Nevermind, have figured it out.

    <thread closed with NO FUCKING ASWER kthxbye>

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      Described: Why whenever I figure something out myself after posting a help thread, I’ll write a whole report on what I did before it got fixed (because often I’m just throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks, and I never know what exactly moved the needle)

      • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world
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        Those threads with “fixed it!” and no instructions? If they’re on reddit, I’m posting “I deleted system32 and the problem went away!”

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            sudo rm -rf /

            Ok, so I retroactively removed the realm of France and now a bunch of Spanish people are pissed about living too close to Luxembourg and the number of great cheeses in the world has decreased by 80%!

            What now?

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      Like I said in a previous thread that ended up on this topic. There’s a special place in hell, with Satan from Little Nicky, a few pineapples and some lobsters to hang off these asshole’s nipples…

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    Here is a comprehensive Guide how to do [x]:

    {20 paragraphs of Background Story}

    [x] is Impossible to do, you dumbfuck

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      Oh god you reminded me of this gem

      https://serverfault.com/questions/780150/how-to-cache-contents-in-haproxy#780155

      Someone asks how to do http caching in HAproxy.

      The one answer:

      don’t use the wrong tool

      haproxy is a wonderful tool. It does not provide caching. A quick scan of the fine docs can verify this. Unless you want to patch haproxy you need to use a tool that does what you’re looking to do.

      don’t create impossible problems

      By asking for haproxy to do something that it doesn’t and excluding the tool that seems to do what you want to do you’ve create an impossible situation. There is no technical solution for this. Don’t make choices that box you into a corner.

      try varnish or anything that actually caches

      If you get over that you might find this tutorial on using varnish with haproxy useful or try varnish by itself. Maybe squid or memcached would be more your speed.

      In the comments to this ludicrous tirade we get this simple comment:

      This was true and valid back then. Nowadays HAProxy does this.

      And just in case someone found this looking for an answer, here’s the example from that link

      backend bck1
        mode http
      
        http-request cache-use foobar
        http-response cache-store foobar
        server srv1 127.0.0.1:80
      
      cache foobar
        total-max-size 4
        max-age 240
      
  • Jo Miran@lemmy.ml
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    Me, who completely nuked twelve years worth of Reddit posts and comments which were often one of, if not the only relevant search result to an extremely niche problem.

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      Maybe one day instead of [Insert Search Query] Reddit, it will instead be [Insert Search Query] Lemmy

      Edit Addendum: Might be cool if people got their old tech support posts from reddit, ask the question that was asked in a post, and then answer their own post with the answer that they gave that solved the issue.

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      Depending on how you nuked it, reddit might have just restored the comment behind your back. My reddit account shows 0 posts/comments, but a month ago I got a reply to a comment in a post I made five years ago providing instructions on how to get a game working in Linux.

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        Yup, I occasionally get replies on posts over a year old that don’t show up in my history because I thought I deleted them.

        Edit your posts. Don’t delete them.

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        Nah, reddit restoring comments is a myth. You just didn’t delete all your comments, even though probably you thought you did.

        See, Reddit, being the duplicitous bitch that it is, doesn’t really show you all your comments when you go to your profile. It’s limited to your last 1000 (?) comments or so, any comment that goes beyond that horizon is gone from your view forever, but it still exists in the thread.

        The way to solve that is to first do a GDPR request. After a few weeks you will receive a zip file containing a file with all your comments and a link to it. You can then use an overwrite and delete tool and point it to this information. It will likely run for several hours or even days, depending on how many comments you made, because reddit throttles edit and delete requests, but it will effectively delete everything.

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        Nothing is 100% but my comments were first replaced with excerpts from books in the public domain, twice. Then I went back a third time and replaced the comments with gibberish, then delete. Most of the comments I find still active are just the excerpts from the books. They read like plain English, so it is very difficult for an AI, or even a contractor, to pick up on the fact that it is worthless.

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      Oof yeah. Finding a reddit thread with your exact query as the title, getting excited to see a comment, aaaaand… It’s “This comment was deleted by EliteUltraEraser Premium TM. I value my privacy,…”

      (I do get it though. And who knows, maybe this will actually help in the long run and not just lead to increased usage of Discord communities so ask the same thing over and over and over again because they aren’t fucking publicly searchable god I hate what Discord has done to the searchability of issues in the tech space?)

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      Yeah that’s really unfortunate :( worth it though I’d say. Just gotta build the knowledge base back up in a better place :)

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      I hate that shit. People answer with “check page 72 of your car manual” and it’s like … you clearly pulled out the manual to pull that page number, I’m under my car right now, just copy the damned sentence.

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      My sweet summer child, issues with google search existed in 2008, things just accelerated at a massive rate once it became the de facto standard and people figured out how to manipulate search results.

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    People who write a whole novel about “google is your friend” and try to make you feel stupid for asking a question are the ultimate assholes. You wrote 3 paragraphs just to bully a stranger on the internet when 1 sentence could have answered the question. Thanks for being a royal knob head.

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        It’s that one tool at your work that needs replacement, but management refuses to do more than clean and reapply a new layer of duct tape so long as it still gets the job done eventually, forcing workers to struggle with it until giving up and finding an alternative solution that doesn’t rely on it.

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    goes to goople
    searches ‘1980 cx500 only runs on one cylinder’
    comment from 2007: “replace this module right here:”
    [broken Photobucket link]

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    More than once I’ve had Google return a years old reddit thread with only 2 or 3 comments that just say “I don’t know, let me know if you find out.” What in the shit is going on that THAT is somehow the SEO winner?

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    It was even wrose when there was a site by the name “let me google it for you”, which insulted you while made an animation about how to use this “not evil” website google. You google “how to do [X]” find a nice looking forum, and people either are angry that OP didn’t google it, or they deceptively linked to a lmgify page.

    After a month of suffering, I instead reinstalled Windows XP, which I had a lot of trouble with (fugly UI, stability issues, performance issues, etc), but not as much as with the “king of stability”, Linux.

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      I always used to use “Let me bing it for you” at least then it was probably something they hadn’t tried, and it was proper trolling instead of just being passive aggressive

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    This was always dickhead behaviour, but not for the reasons you guys are circlejerking about. Often the answers to these questions are extremely easy to find online (even today, Google is nowhere near as useless as people make it out to be). But the entire point of asking other people through social media or a forum is because you want to engage in discussion with other humans. That’s literally the entire point of these websites: to foster discussion, both for the sake of learning and for the social entertainment we all need. People who sign up to them and then completely shutdown attempts to start discussions are absolutely braindead and don’t understand any of this. Modern forms of social media only encourage this kind of performative social interaction. So many people seem to think the sole purpose of discussion-based social media is to dunk on others with a vicious reply and “win” by earning more points (ratio) instead of having an actual back and forth discussion with another human.

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      I mean, there has definitely been a noticeable and significant decline in the quality of search engine results, particularly on Google. It used to stand out at least a little bit from Bing (a search engine that went very hard into inserting ads into results early on), but they’ve essentially become indistinguishable. Aesthetics and connections with other platforms like Gmail and YouTube have become the only real reason to stay with one over the other.

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        Sure, I completely that it has declined significantly. I think the comments in this thread about it “sucking cock”, being “just ads and SEO crap”, or a “bloated, shit site” are hyperbole though. It is still the best search engine for most use-cases and queries, including finding answers to “how do I do X” type questions. I use DuckDuckGo (AKA Bing) but only because it gets close enough to Google’s results to be a superior choice for me overall when I take into account its massive privacy advantages. In terms of results, there is still enough of a gap that I will occasionally need to rely on Google’s results for particular queries. I actually used to use StartPage for this exact reason and only switched because it had issues with VPNs.

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    it’s crazy how those comments are aging like milk precisely because google/web search is going to shit (in addition to being dickhead comments ofc)

    just weird to look back and think about how we thought it would never change

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        a friend of mine discovered the tip to add “before:2025” (or, the current year+1) to your yt search to improve it. i have no clue why that does anything but it reverts it to pre-enshittified functionality

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      To give google 1(one) droplet of credit, the enshittification didn’t come from them alone. In fact I’m fairly sure that if they could get their way, the page would still return useful results, only, JUST below all the paid ads. SEO Spam doesn’t help THEM either.

      The problem is… A lot of the “good” results on google came from like. Enthusiast websites. Webforums. And… Reddit.

      Enthusiast Websites are much rarer now. They got consolidated into media conglomerates and then closed down. Only a few remain.

      Webforums are in a similar zombified state, most got vored by “social media” and Discord (P.S.: if you are a dev or artist or whatever and use a Discord server as the main helpline/download source for a project you’re doing, fuck you very much, you are the ACTUAL worst <3), which aren’t indexed by search engines.

      Then Reddit got Spez’d, so THAT avenue is fucked too.

      Fedi isn’t indexed by search engines either (AFAIK), so you can’t do the old “<Search terms> reddit” trick replacing reddit with lemmy. It won’t work.

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    I FOUND A STACK OVERFLOW QUESTIONS RECENTLY THAT WAS LITERALLY THIS!

    Nr. 1 accepted answer (lots of years ago): something something plenty of information available on Google, no need for this thread

    Nr. 2 answer (way fewer years ago): seeing as this is now the first Google result for anything relating to this, here’s how you do it.

    (shame I can’t remember what exactly the question was. Please still me? 🥺)

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      (shame I can’t remember what exactly the question was. Please still me? 🥺)

      I think about half the threads on stackoverflow fit this criteria

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    Or someone asked a question on Reddit and got an answer, but then it was removed due to a protest. All you get is the reply “Thank you so much! It works now”

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      Honestly I was so mad when I noticed that whole thing kicking off… I had SO MANY PROBLEMS solved by finding answers on reddit…

      Obligatory: Fuck Spez… Greedy POS.