Idk if anyone had a similar problem before, but I live in EU by the countryside, at first there were only a few but now it happens more and more often to see drones passing over my house, I am sure they are civilian drones because law enforcement has no reason to use them since the area is quiet (and honestly I doubt they would be able to do so), however it bothers me enough to know that there are people who get over the fence and enter my property going to look at what they want, does anyone have any advice on what to do?
How is it trespassing? How far up do you “own” ? 5m , 200m, 1000km?
On the other hand, get a another drone and play chasey wott theirs, maybe and some talons to yours and swoop, eagle style ?
E.g. in germany it is not allowed to fly over private property with a drone (equipped with a camera), no matter the height. You have to stay above offical streets. And maximum flight hight is 120 m, if I remember correctly.
I guess it’s EU law, so it should be simmilar in other EU countries.
Next CIA satellite over my house, I will legally shoot down with mu pulse laser !
I’m not sure for the EU but in the USA the airspace above your private property is public domain and since drones are classified as aircraft they are entitled do fly over your property just as an airplane or helicopter might. When a drone is being used to record and surveillance it depends on local jurisdiction.
Almost. Any drone that weighs more than .55lbs must be registered with the FAA and as part of that it is required to be compliant with RemoteID. RemoteID requires the drone to broadcast both its identification and location of the control station.
If it’s being operated over a home then it will almost certainly have to follow the rules on Operation Over People and those can be quite restrictive, especially for drones that weigh more than .55lbs.
There ARE Federal Rules for this in the United States, drone operators cannot legally fly any type of drone anywhere they want at any time.
If it’s being operated over a home then it will almost certainly have to follow the rules on Operation Over People and those can be quite restrictive, especially for drones that weigh more than .55lbs.
That is incorrect… If you actually read the law you are trying to reference you will learn it’s a prohibition on flying over “open-air assemblies of people” and if you read the final rule report (found on the very bottom of the page you linked under resources) on page 128 & 129 you will see how the FAA classifies “open-air assemblies of people”.
The FAA received a few comments addressing the proposal to prohibit Category 3 operations over open-air assemblies of people. One commenter recommended the FAA clarify what it means by an “assembly of people” and provide a quantity or density of people that constitute a significant risk. The FAA has declined to define this term by regulation; rather, the FAA employs a case-by-case approach in determining how to apply the term “open-air assembly.”58 Whether an operational area is an open-air assembly is evaluated by considering the density of people who are not directly participating in the operation of the small unmanned aircraft and the size of the operational area. Such assemblies are usually associated with public spaces. The FAA considers some potential examples of open-air assemblies may include sporting events, concerts, parades, protests, political rallies, community festivals, or parks and beaches during certain events. Some potential examples that are less likely to be considered open-air assemblies include individual persons or families exiting a shopping center, athletes participating in friendly sports in an open area without spectators, individuals or small groups taking leisure in a park or on a beach, or individuals walking or riding a bike along a bike path, but whether an open-air assembly exists depends on a case-by-case determination based on the facts and circumstances of each case.
While the FAA refused to strictly give a definition, what was provided is enough to construed that private property does not constitute an “open-air assemblies of people”.
There is a reasonable expectation of privacy though. It’s the cameras that make it illegal, not the drone intruding in the first place
There’s only a reasonable expectation of privacy in private. As the courts have ruled many times, it’s something is visible from the street or from the air, it’s probably not private.
No expectation of privacy from the street, yes, at any elevation, sure. But if youre flying a drone over my property within the private airspace I own, that is trespassing
How far up do you own, I didn’t release anyone owned space above their place.?
That is incorrect on a federal level, your milage may vary with city/country/state laws. Federally in the United States the right to reasonable expectation of privacy does not extend to outside of your house per Hester v. United States, 265 U.S. 57 (1924). The government is allowed to surveil you from public airspace without a warrant per Florida v. Riley, 488 U.S. 445 (1989).
This is the first search result that came up for me, and claiming the opposite
That site is full of false claims with zero sources to back up those claims which is pretty funny seeing as that article is claiming to be written by a retired corporate attorney. The site is also chocked full of SEO tricks which is possible why it was the first result that came up for you. For example on 5. the word drone is stealthily a link to another irrelevant article about drone deliveries on a different as sketchy site. Link hiding is a well known trick to gain the system and bump up your page.
In most parts of the EU you’re not allowed to fly over private property.
Actual airplanes must have a hell of a time abiding by that rule then.
Addendum: drone licenses and permits doesn’t allow you to fly over private property or main roads.
If I remember the rules correctly you are allowed to fly over private property as long as it isn’t fenced off. You cannot overfly buildings without permission. You can take pictures of private property without permission as long as they don’t contain anything personally identifiable (ie. don’t take pictures of people, but no people is fine).
“I think there’s something wrong with the door switch on my old microwave oven. I’ve been testing it outside for safety, that’s why it’s out in the back yard pointing upwards with the door open.”
Wait… other than cook any bird or animal that might land inside, what would this do? I thought household microwaves were nowhere near capable of doing anything at any distance.
I’d just go to the local print shop and have the most disturbing image put onto some large poster. Like a Hi-Res close up of a butthole with some form of issues.
I think the idea is to create a ton of noise in the 2.4GHz band which is commonly used to control drones. It’s not going to “cook” a drone at distances further than a few feet, you’d need a maser (microwave laser) for that.
Precisely.
A 1200 watt microwave is essentially like a 1200 watt bar heater if you’re outside the oven cavity. To a person, it will feel pretty warm at a distance of a few feet as the energy is basically unfocused as it exits through the open door.
But to a drone, it’s 1200 watts of RF noise near a receiving device that’s tuned to listen for signals that are typically around 0.00000001 watts. It would be like trying to hear a pin drop at a rock concert.
Do need to make sure you point it upwards though as it will cause havoc with microwave motion sensors and a bunch of other sensitive listening stuff. Also, good luck getting wifi within a hundred metres of it.
Yep, a microwave emits orders of magnitude more signal strength than any control system will. My microwave at home, even closed, leaks enough to introduce noise in my wireless headphones if I stand close.
That wouldn’t work
My microwave used to knock out my WiFi. Even the door closed.
Why not? Electromagnetic interference is a mother.
It scatters really easy. By the time it gets anywhere near the drone it will be far to weak to do anything. Meanwhile you would end up cooking you and everything around you. The effect wouldn’t be immediate but eventually you could get burns.
there’s a software package floating around to hijack drones and remote control them yourself. it might be time to test the drone’s security capabilities
hide the bodies under the deck
Are you legally allowed to own a shotgun?
Don’t shoot down drones. In the US it counts as shooting down an aircraft and you’ll have the FAA knocking at your door
OP stated this was in europe. Out of the FAA’s jurisdiction. The EASA may have similar rules though
I’d be very surprised if that were true for ones not registered with the FAA.
I’m somewhat surprised that there’s no purchasable solution to this problem as all of the technology to make a short range drone interdiction system already exist. To detect one all that’s necessary is an appropriate camera setup and a system hooked to it capable of recognizing them, both of which are already prevalent in the market. Add an inexpensive laser range finder so the system can know if the drone is truly over your property and at an altitude acceptable for interception.
Once that’s done it becomes a matter of how to interdict the drone. One relatively safe option would be for the system to deploy a high speed short range interdiction drone to overfly the other drone and drop something on top of it meant to snarl its rotors, for instance fishing line with weights.
None of that is necessarily easy but its certainly doable.
EMP systems usually are heavily regulated for a very, very good handful of reasons.
I just shoot them with a pellet gun.
I’m somewhat surprised that there’s no purchasable solution to this problem as
There is, you just don’t have access for very good reasons.
Hell, I own shares in Droneshield (DRO.AX) for example.
anduril (creepy military defense company from right wing tech bro) has made this, I’m sure its absurdly expensive though, and I don’t think they sell to random people.
Just looked it up for Germany: over residential areas you need either “an explicit permission of the owner”, or “it is very light (<250g) and has no ability to record video, audio or radio” or “it is more then 100m above ground, not in the night and some other fingerprint” [1].
In all EU you actually need a registration on your some clearly visible [2].
So, of they are below 100m or in the night, just call the authorities. If you live a bit outside it might just not clear from above that it’s private property.
[1] https://dipul.de/homepage/en/information/geographical-zones/legal-basis/#accordion-1-6 [2] https://www.easa.europa.eu/en/light/topics/travelling-drones
Just launch your own drone and go say hi.
Battle drones
Drone pilot from Germany here, they have no place hovering over your property, more strictly even they’re not allowed to fly in any way that allows them to view your garden from above. You can shoot down the drone and it’s their problem note that this is in Germany not the US (which surprised me tbh).
However, that said, could be that it’s the same pilot again and again, even if it’s different birds. Normally they are very cooperative, just ask them to stop and they’ll apologize for any inconvenience caused.
Since op didn’t mention seeing a pilot, I’d suspect that the drones are flown out of sight. So asking them to stop can be difficult. Of course asking nicely, by downing a drone, might get the message across.
I wonder if I could shoot down drones here in Denmark as well.
Flying out of sight only underlines the illegality of the act. In Germany you need to keep relatively near to your drone and technically need to be able to fly by sight only (so can’t stand in a building/car and then not see your drone).
Same in DK, and my comment was meant to underline that. If you see a drone and no operator is around, then something is definitely wrong.
I mean, years ago, I had a DJI Phantom 2 Vision+ drift away, on account of my own inexperience and stupidity. This was right when it had just come out, and way before drone licenses and laws forbidding drone flights in populated areas. So no laws were broken; and it was done with no malicious intent… But these days?
Not even the DK police, who have some very well-trained drone operators, can fly their drones out of sight.
Seeing a drone with no operator once? Something might have gone wrong, let’s not jusødge too harshly, but seeing a drone with no operator regularly? On your property? If you have a hunting permit, a shotgun, and a clear shot, then it might be a good time to practice your anti air skills.
Jesus F Christ, what???/some random bullets.flying through the air ? Some kid a few blocks over shot whikie playing in the yard, thats ok, was shooting at some asshats drone but missed?
Juat moon the drone and be done with it, like a sane person
Birdshot exists
Was done with an air rifle, making it a little bit better, but it still very much surprised me due to the very same reasons…
FAA Certified drone pilot in the USA here. That’s wild. In the US it’s illegal to shoot down an aircraft of any sort no matter the type or who is flying it. And also, the Federal Aviation Administration is the only authority in the US when it comes to airspace, and as long as you have authorization from the FAA or are in uncontrolled space, you can fly over anyone’s property. However, that doesn’t give you the right to voyeurism or harassment. If you are intentionally spying on things that are normally considered private (peeking in a window, for instance) or repeatedly or specifically bugging a specific individual or family, then you can still be charged with those crimes. Also, unless you have a specific waiver that’s rather hard to get, you have to be within line of sight of your drone. If the drone pilot is not following the rules, they can be hit with hefty fines. Even though drones can be bought easily, there’s still strict rules that the FAA has for both recreational and professional flying, and anyone operating a drone outside those can and should be reported.
FAA Certified drone pilot in the USA here. That’s wild. In the US it’s illegal to shoot down an aircraft of any sort
That’s even wilder to me, since you have several states where you are allowed to shoot anyone trespassing on your property, but a drone, who can record and video and infringe on your privacy is illegal?!
That’s like prime capitalism. Human lives are worthless, but don’t damage my property. What?
It’s all about property rights here. You can always just make more people, right?
Honestly they should get a good video of the drone and report it. If the police do nothing sent it to the community
This works if they fly low enough
That guy deserves an award
I never understood anti drug drones. You’d think criminals would just go inside or get a pavilion
You can also use an anti-drone gun
Didn’t know they drank great northern piss in Ohio.
They don’t. They’re a QLD couple that got in trouble for being absolute legends and knocking down their neighbour’s drone.
Portsmouth Ohio, fat redneck throwing a bottle of shit Australian beer and the police not executing a no knock warrant and murdering him for his crimes?
I call bullshit.
He’s white, it’s okay.
Police drones. Surveillance “for your protection”
Fuck them!
That some dystopian shit!
That photo is real but that caption isn’t.
That was taken in Australia with one of our better beers front and centre
You drink great northern beers in Ohio? I mean they are decent beers, but didn’t think they’d made it across the Pacific
Here is a great defcon talk that might give you some ideas: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CzURm7OpAA
Get yourself a little beehive OP.
Every time you see a drone, report it for killing your bees, sit back and watch the EU busybodies go fuckin mental about it
The cunt who’s doing it will be in The Hague within a week 😂
Just to confirm the obvious. Downvotes are expected but OP you should read this.
They are close enough to see that they are quad copters, and they make a buzzing noise, correct?
There have been a lot of UAP flaps where the objects (not quad copter looking) will fly low over the countryside, just above the tree-lines to much higher. They usually make no noise aside from reports of static or screeching or electronic interference.
Unlikely to be the case but if so, report to your countries MUFON type department and get as much evidence (video with sound, drawings, time and date, etc) as you can.
There is something else out there, whether it’s military black projects mapping areas or what have you, and it needs to be documented.
If it is for sure quad copter drones, you can get a device to blast the 2.4Ghz spectrum for a short time and make them ‘phone home’ and the operators will stop flying them over your property once they realize something wrong keeps happening when they do. Legality varies.
Many tutorials available to DIY. You can also buy them pre-built, just more expensive.
