• Hjalmar@feddit.nu
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    2 months ago

    Nah, what about if we just use a even mix of all usb types and then ensure that half of all cables sold don’t have data pins?

      • Dkarma@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        Early 2000s nerdcore tech lovers unite! Get out your 640x480 digital camera and cf cards!

    • FireRetardant@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      Most of my flashlights and rechargeable decives are micro USB still. C is superior but I’m not throwing away good electronics over a charging cable.

      • Kusimulkku@lemm.ee
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        2 months ago

        I was just thinking that the only device that’s still micro USB is my Kindle, but remembered that I also have a PS4 controller

      • MrJameGumb@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        Well in this scenario it’s a genie granting a wish, so why not just wish for everything to be changed to USB-C?

        • FireRetardant@lemmy.world
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          2 months ago

          In some senses i would go back. Then i could just keep using 1 wire. Things were great when everything had the same cable for me. Now ive got a mix of micro and C.

          I do a lot backpacking and every gram really counts when you carry it all day.

    • TheEntity@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      The micro USB most of us know already is a USB-B. Each cable before USB-C had USB-A on one side and USB-B on the other. The square-like one used for printers is a full-sized USB-B, as opposed to the one used in phones (micro USB-B).

        • TheEntity@lemmy.world
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          2 months ago

          Yes, that’s what I meant by “the micro USB most of us know”. I don’t think I’ve ever seen the A variant of micro USB.

            • TheEntity@lemmy.world
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              2 months ago

              Unlikely, the A plugs are for the host devices while the B plugs are for peripherals. It got blurred with smartphones (see: USB-OTG) but in general the host devices were big enough to have full-sized USB ports, so the smaller USB-Bs are extremely rare.

    • brap@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      I’m so conflicted. It’s way too chunky, but I’ve never had one fail and it’s durable as shit. Damn.

    • Dkarma@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      At least mini is robust. Micro had that tiny tab that always got damaged after a year or less cuz you inevitably tried to plug that mf in backwards

      • LANIK2000@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        I don’t think I ever managed to break it by plugging it in backwards, but they indeed brake constantly. Mine would always bend since they were so bloody thin. The only micro usb cable that didn’t break is the one going to my PC tablet, which I barely move, every other one got bumped around enough, either in my backpack or just charging in bed/on the couch, to eventually break the contacts within a year or 2, 3 max.

        I once got an adapter as a kid to plug in a controller, was super exited until I dropped it and stepped on it by accident with my naked squishy child feet, probably the fastest I ever broke one of these. Like what the actual fuck? Micros sucks so much!

      • nilclass@discuss.tchncs.de
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        2 months ago

        Yeah, mini is the best! It is robust and has a ahape that makes it easy to figure out which way to plug it. I love it when i fet a device with a mini

        • RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          2 months ago

          has a ahape that makes it easy to figure out

          May I introduce you to USB C then where it doesn’t fucking matter how you plug it? I definitely prefer mini over the micro abomination but it’s not “the best”.

          • bleistift2@sopuli.xyzEnglish
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            2 months ago

            I see you don’t work IT where the solition to “my docking station isn’t working” always, always, always is “rotate the USB-C cable”.

            I am not kidding. Vendors fuck this up either because they’re dumb or because they want to cheap out (why make sure both work if they’re interchangeable?)

      • SSTF@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        12 yards long, 2 lanes wide, 65 tons of American pride! Macro USB! Macro USB! Top of the line. Unexplained fires are a matter for the courts!

        • FinishingDutch@lemmy.world
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          2 months ago

          God yes. I absolutely HATE that phones got slimmer and slimmer while also consuming more battery - which can’t be swapped like the good old days.

          I’ve got giant hands. Give me a phone that’s AT LEAST twice as thick with a battery that lasts at least three days.

          I’d absolutely carry a large Motorola brick phone style if those were still viable today. They do make retro gimmick phones like it, but you really do need a smartphone for a lot of specific apps.

          • TotalSonic@lemmy.worldEnglish
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            2 months ago

            Unihertz and Oukitel both make “rugged” phone models with giant batteries - aimed at weekend campers with giant hands. And Fairphone and Volla both have phones that still allow for easy battery swapping.

            • FinishingDutch@lemmy.world
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              2 months ago

              Neat, I’ve never heard of those. Unihertz makes one with a projector in it… that’s wild. I’d be hesitant to buy a phone that’s sold on AliExpress though, I’d assume OS support wouldn’t be that great.

    • BearOfaTime@lemm.ee
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      2 months ago

      I’ve had 400% more failures of USB C than of micro. Keep in mind I’ve only had C for a couple years, and micro for 14 across numerous devices.

      • buddascrayon@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        That’s got to be something you’re doing. Cause I’ve had exactly zero problems. In fact I don’t think I’ve actually met a person who’s ever had a problem with USB - C. But I have boxes (plural) of dead micro USB cables and, on top of that, I have so many devices that have been rendered useless by the fact that the micro USB port has been blown or damaged in some way it’s not even funny.

        Edit, these are not all mine. They are from multiple people.

        • SirSnufflelump@lemmy.ca
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          2 months ago

          I’m with you. Those spring-latch-things on the micro just give up on life and the whole thing becomes useless or tears apart the port you try to plug them into. I say leave them in the past

          • buddascrayon@lemmy.world
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            2 months ago

            Yeah, I love the counter argument of “oh, the USB - C gets dirt in it”. As though that hasn’t been an issue with every port ever conceived. 😒

        • shottymcb@lemm.ee
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          2 months ago

          Type-C ports are a lot more sensitive to dirt in my experience. I can keep it working if I clean the port every couple weeks, but at this point I just pretend phones don’t have charging ports.

      • Storspoven@feddit.nu
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        2 months ago

        Me too, first two phones I had with USB C both developed issues with the port, one shorted in the port, the other for some reason could only be charged with one specific cable, oriented in only one direction. Never had any issues with the ports on any previous USB micro phones.

        The current one works alright though, and its capable of detecting water and dirt in the port, so probably won’t short itself. So I think the technology is improving.

        • ruckblack@sh.itjust.works
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          2 months ago

          My anecdotal experience is the complete opposite of you two lol. Tons of issues with micro-b and a few broken connectors. No issues thus far with C.

        • lone_faerie@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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          2 months ago

          In my experience, that’s what tends to happen with a dirty port/cable. Cleaning it out solves the problem 99% of the time.

  • Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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    2 months ago

    Most micro USB cables that came bundled with phones or gadgets were built so cheaply that they don’t even have data pins. They’re a pain to sort out whenever I want to program a board.

    • Admetus@sopuli.xyz
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      2 months ago

      Yep. When I wanted to transfer files between phone and computer I had to try out 3 cables before I found one that was data capable.

    • qaz@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      I recently went through my collection of Micro USB cables because I couldn’t fit them into the drawer anymore. About 80% wouldn’t even receive any data at all.

    • cro_magnon_gilf@sopuli.xyz
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      2 months ago

      They are useful for dummies like me though! When I let my phone run out of battery while installing an update, I thought it was the end for it. But it turned out that it had just bricked itself by desperately using every single ounce of juice, so it could no longer tell the charger that it wanted to charge.

      Solved by buying a dumber charger!

    • Dkarma@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      This this this…what the fuck.

      If anyone here has a synth and it uses USB and they can’t get it to be seen by the computer this is why…ask how I know

      • BluesF@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        My old kindle was a nightmare for this reason. Plus the socket got funky with age on top of that, and eventually there was really like 1 special cable that would work and it always seemed to end up hidden under 50000 things.

        Still, that does speak to the battery life of the kindle.

      • pezhore@lemmy.ml
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        2 months ago

        The one good thing about Google’s Social media experiment was that guy who reviewed USBC cables to see if they actually adhered to the standards.

        It’s shocking how many didn’t have the proper resistors or components to properly handle data and charging.

      • TexasDrunk@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        I used to keep every cable that came with any electronics. USB-C convinced me to throw away any cable I didn’t specifically buy. Even my charging cables are USB4 240w 40gbps because I got so tired of guessing which cable did what. I don’t even need those specs but I’ll never have to wonder which cable to use.

  • yuri@pawb.social
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    2 months ago

    I love that it’s just “no falling in love” and not “no making people fall in love”