Definitely a planned assassination attempt. Used as the rallying call for his supporters. The picture of him holding his fist up just after being shot at proved it; no one, I believe, would be able to muster that sort of gusto after having a real attempt on their life.
Lol, you think he got someone to shoot him in the ear on purpose? You’re insane
He just caught a scratch. Holding up his arm isn’t the smart thing to do but that just makes it more authentic.
Not with an AR-15 clone. The accuracy on those beyond 100 meters is crap. That was almost assuredly a weapon of convenience.
Now, it’s totally possible some operative groomed him to take the shot, if he was already eager enough to make an attack and just needed encouragement / direction. But then even he probably didn’t know actually who.
You can hear on the videos that he was told the shooter was down.
So like, yeah fist pump.
Clearly you haven’t been pumped up on adrenaline. It can absolutely give you the confidence to act like he did.
And don’t you think it’s a bit contradictory to not have the gusto to throw your fist in the air after being shot but being stone cold calm before getting shot? If it was planned Trump would’ve known he’s going to get shot at and like the coward he is he wouldn’t have just stared at the shooter.
Also we don’t know the cartridge of the weapon but if the weapon used 556 or 223, then it’s very unlikely it was staged because those would shred Trump if they actually hit him. If it was 9mm or 22 it would be more believable, but even then would you really risk killing the candidate just to prop up votes? He didn’t seem to be wearing a BP vest so even smaller rounds would have been life threatening.
I very much doubt it was staged or false flag or anything of the sorts. It just doesn’t make sense to me. Trump should get an Oscar if it was planned that way.
My dude thinks 223 is big boy bullets
My point was that if you had to have someone shooting at you would you rather they shot 22lr or 223? Shooting any live round at a target you don’t actually want to injure or kill is stupid, but if you had to you’d want to use the smallest possible bullet to minimize the damage.
The idea of shooting any round at someone and expecting them to survive is absurd, but .223/5.56 is definitely in the range of “reliably fatal if applied to the chest or head” .
It might not be a “big boy round” but it’s still a rifle round – if wasn’t powerful enough to reliably “incapacitate” (i.e. “kill”) a human being at 100 yards the world’s militaries wouldn’t use it.
.22LR can readily kill someone, with good shot placement. Basically anything interfering with the heart, brain, or causing substantial leaks of the circulatory system is gonna kill someone.
Real men can shrug off any calibre not designed to punch through car engine blocks.
Shit, I hear that if you use enough power tools and watch enough sportsball even those liquid copper jet tank boomy things have a hard time getting through the protective crust of sawdust and testosterone.
Lol power tools… Literally devices made to make hard work easy, so funny that they became this manly symbol.
You’re the dude pretending 9mm would be a reasonable false flag ammo lol
… you might want to re-read my comment because I’m definitely not saying that.
Adrenaline, and narcissism
The revelation that this level of conspiracy theory crazy is so prominent on what I thought was the side of reason has revoked my last shreds of faith in humanity.
You’re just falling for Marighost’s false flag!
I can’t be the only one who didn’t give much weight to the “registered Republican” thing, right? I’ve considered registering as Republican just to do damage control in their primaries, and I know people who’ve done just that.
That being said, if this guy really does turn out to be a Republican I fully expect conservatives to try and gaslight everyone into thinking he was actually Antifa or something.
Republican, democrat, something else: I think it’s all plausible, we don’t know anything about the person or their motives yet.
He was probably trying to impress Jodie Foster.
Should’ve tried being a beautiful gay lady I guess.
I’m aware
So he read about Doe 147 and got even more disgusted than I did? Which, yeah. I don’t blame him if that was his motive.
That was some of the sickest shit I’ve ever read about someone with so much power and influence.
Re: recently unsealed Epstein documents uncover who Doe 147 is (trump) and recounts some of the experiences told by the abused girls.
He voted Republican in 2022 allegedly. Looking for reliable sources, could be BS.
Voting is anonymous. He would have to tell someone how he voted for anyone to know. Unless you mean the primaries, in which case, he’d have to register for the party primary he wanted to vote in ahead of time. Having grown up in PA, I can tell you that it’s common practice to change parties depending on which party has the more consequential primary. I’ve done this myself, multiple times. Maybe he’s right wing. Maybe he’s left wing. But Lemmy propagandists aren’t going to wait to find out.
I thought I could do that, because I live in a Red county, but all the Republicans in the primary were crazy. So, I didn’t.
He was 20 years old. He might have registered republican just to try ways of getting closer to trump
He did attempt to kill a fascist so he literally is an anti-fascist.
We don’t know his reasoning so until that becomes clear questions remain.
He might have been brother of a child rape victim, he might have loved Stormy Daniels until she was soiled by Trump, he might just be a old school Republican tired of the crazy in charge of his party. All seem reasonable things to hate Trump for but none are reason to kill him.
I’d rather Trump face jail time than die from an assassin. Him bitching to his cellie because he isn’t allowed to have his phone and Truth Social access is a far better fate for him.
Killing fascists doesn’t inherently make you antifascist. Fascists kill each other all the time!
This act of Chinese aggression will not stand!
Hunter Bidens laptop could have stopped this. Dark Brandon will kill again!
But SCOTUS says that’s all cool and legal, though.
It’s always the ones you suspect the most
You must be the greatest detective the world never had! 😉
Batman?
I love when the World’s Greatest Detective just has his fully equipped crime lab AI solve the case for him
Him being registered republican doesn’t necessarily mean he still feels that way. He made a blue political donation. Some people register with a certain party just because their parents are present when they sign up.
I don’t think there is currently enough public information to build an accurate profile on him.
He was 20 and registered to vote in 2021 (which is public information), so he wouldn’t have had a lot of time to change his mind
Trump and the Supreme Court are more than enough reason to change one’s mind.
At 20, 3 years is definitely a long time.
Young, dumb, full of cum.
He made a blue political donation
To a GOTV PAC. On inauguration day.
About as useful as tits on a tractor.
Well, if you’re a lonely farmer and there aren’t any single and willing women around, tits on a tractor could be very useful.
Pretty sure a RealDoll or something like that would be more pleasurable and cost less including upkeep 🤷
Someone with same first and last name as him made a donation after the 2020 election.
You can look up the receipt on the FEC and the address is listed as 2506 Milford Drive, which is the same address as his voter registration and what’s being reported on the news. I keep seeing this “there is another Thomas Crooks” narrative online and wanted to confirm myself.
Wouldn’t he have been 16 at the time?
thoughts and prayers.
Maybe some 2nd amendment people still take the defending against tyranny bit seriously.
I guess we are gonna see how well that 2nd amendment holds up against capitalists tyranny.
I know I certainly do. But seriously, was the shooter a republican? I’ve been traveling for the past 48 hours and apparently missed all the fun.
Allegedly registered republican but also allegedly donated small amount of money to Biden PAC.
Don’t count your chickens yet… Could just be another apolitical psychopath
I mean the guy that nearly got Reagan wanted to impress an actress.
A child actress!
also allegedly donated small amount of money to Biden PAC.
He donated $15 to a Democrat get out the vote PAC… On inauguration day.
One of the least useful donations ever 😂
A registered Republican, back in 2020 or something. RINOs exist.
He was only 20, registered as a republican. But could’ve done that as part of his plan to make it look like infighting.
The rare double false flag
Or he is just a crazy person that doesnt know what he is doing.
Fucking called it
Unless the late Mr. Crooks jotted down a manifesto or otherwise is discovered to reveal his motive, we’re not going to know, and are only able to guess at why he shot at Trump. Let me repeat that: We can only guess and will never know unless we get really lucky.
(One of my favorite details of a shooter incident was Adam Lanza’s favorite video game obsession, Dance Dance Revolution since it was still a common opinion that video games trained rampage killers. Tastes in video games and music are about as useful as needing to impress Jodie Foster, or reread The Catcher In the Rye. You may be a lover, Adam, but you ain’t no dancer.)
Crooks’ choice of weapon (an AR-15–style rifle ) indicates a weapon of convenience. He didn’t have the time or means to get something that was more suited to the task. This fits more the profile of a radicalized civilian than a trained operative.
When Al-Qaeda wanted to attack a target (or CIA, or IRA, or any other active group trying to influence a theater of conflict) they’d look at the suicide demographics. What young people are killing themselves in high numbers. Then, in the internet age, it’s a matter of finding people who are self-radicalized, who want to express their outrage violently. And then its a matter of grooming that person (in this case very much the way predators groom children) to see the target of interest as the site / VIP / venue of the terror action. The rampage killer / saboteur / terrorist never knows who he’s working for or what his cause is, only that by suicide bombing at this site, he’ll be heard and known.
Is this to say Crooks was pointed at killing Trump by CIA? Not at all. Trump is an easy viable target, and there are plenty of reasons to be pissed off at him that make sense. But the reason that Crooks had to express his discontent violently has likely very little to do with Trump directly, and whether he’s left-wing and wants to stop the US’ descent into one-party autocracy, or he’s far-right wing and thinks Trump is selling out isn’t why he’s shooting.
There are however, droves of pre-radicalized war boys in the US, silver paint in hand wanting an opportunity to be witnessed all shiny and chrome into Valhalla. A lot of them can be seen in the alt-right, the incels, the MGTOWs the alpha-male wannabes who have been entirely disregarded since they were teens without explanation or education, and are not expected to either magically turn into high-paid salarymen, or suffer as losers in a single-occupant dwelling in a dead-end job where they’re overworked and underpaid.
I’m not saying Crooks is one of these guys, only that it’s a big circle on the Venn-diagram, and not a difficult target to fall into. This circle not only has a higher-than-average male suicide rate (which is already high in the general population) but also is where pro-trump militants and the transnational white power movement gets its recruits. And they tend to register Republican.
Again, we don’t know, only this might inform our guesses.
No disrespect you wrote so much but, as far my politics are concerned; this dude was a registered republican.
He’s right wing and that’s what we know.
A registered party member is just someone who voted in the primary.
The Democratic primaries in my area had a bunch of uncontested seats or I was comfortable with all the candidates, so I registered Republican to vote against Trump.
I’m a registered Republican, but I am not a supporter of the GOP.
Continued information coming out about him confirm he was an active and proud conservative. Quoted students confirmed this and the like-minded alt-right group of kids he hung out with.
Sorry, the “secret democrat” narrative is over.
Source? I’d love to read more and be prepared for future discussions.
Awesome, thank you!
So I have two (conflicting) thoughts regarding people as right wing.
Firstly, here in the States, right-wing encompasses a lot of spectrum, from the extreme reactionary / accelerationist folks that are keen to replicate the worst of the atrocities of the German Reich, to those who are neoliberal / neoconservative, and believes in a multi-faceted economy, a pluralist, secular culture and the use of military adventurism to secure American interests abroad when diplomacy and trade relations fail to bring those about.
Crooks could come from anywhere in this gamut, whether he is (what I suspect) an extremist glad to serve the new American order as a militant or an operative on the field, or someone who is Republican because they identify as [R] but still wish to see the US as a place where democracy and government by the people prevails. (It isn’t, with our democratic features tightly constrained, but the rival party prevents one party from taking absolute power.)
Secondly, when it comes to Republican intellegentsia, there’s a tendency to want their party to be less extreme than they have become, as we’ve seen with those Republicans like Brad Raffensburger who is not willing to cheat or collaborate with Republican officials to bend the system to secure an election victory, but who still believes in the anti-poor, anti-labor, pro-prison, pro-police Republican policies that laid the rails to our current situation on the precipice of autocratic takeover. We have a lot of people who knowingly voted in Reagan, George H. W. Bush, George W. Bush and Donald J. Trump, and kept voting Republicans down-ballot, aware that the policies they preferred would eventually drive the US to the kind of general precarity and discontent that leads to systemic breakdown and autocratic rule.
But that’s not where Crooks is, as much as we like to imagine our operatives are playing 5D chess, whether they’re allies or enemies. Essentially, Crooks did as most terrorists and rampage killers did, and committed angry suicide, with as little actual planning as he could manage.
But that could change if Mr. Wrench chatted with him on line for twenty hours over the course of four weeks convincing him to take a pot-shot at Trump, or if he’s done a lot of reading of political theory and came to such a conclusion on his own. But until that evidence comes up, I think he was just acting out of pure rage based on personal circumstances.
Consider this. As this was his first presidential election to vote in, registering Democrat meant voting in a meaningless primary, so registering Republican would be a strategic choice to vote against Trump as a nominee.
Is this the case? We don’t know yet, but voter registration for a 20 year old doesn’t infer much
Both primaries were forgone conclusions.
He registered as a Republican in 2021, and voted in the 2022 election, so it wasn’t for a strategic vote against Trump, unless he was thinking ahead by several years.
There were a ton of fake accounts made the second a name was released, excuse me for not taking a screenshot as proof of anything.
That’s fair, I’m certainly not going to check the account details as that would require having an account myself, like some kind of weird Nazi.
It doesn’t matter. This is the Reichstag Fire.
