Why werent they consulting hairdresser in the first place? They can’t be experts because they’re not academics? is that the reasoning?
It’s made up, like facebook clickbait. Archeologists are not idiots.
Honestly I’m swallowing this wholesale if it happened until like the early 90s or something. Maybe even later. To think of roman hairdressing styles as entirely an archeological question and never one where you might ask a hairdresser seems pretty par for the course for academia
If it happened in 1940 maybe.
I mean, tons of archaeologists have historically been idiots and loved white-male-splaining (among other 'splainings) things to indigenous cultures and discounting their works because no way could these black/indian/female/whatever people possibly be able to conceive of such a thing as this! Some of it could even have arguably spawned the ancient aliens bullshit because it must have been some kind of intelligent race and certainly not the ancient people of this land. Old antiquarians were often even worse.
Not in this case though.
Correct. I just didnt want people to have the impression that there aren’t problementic archaeologists.
GLAM = Galleries, Libraries, Archives and Museums
This is why you go to subject matter experts.
/Software development rant
/fucking everything rant. Scholars and management alike are terrible at this
As others replies have said, it seems that her expertise was welcomed in the community.
Having spent my fair share of time in grad school, my experience with the arrogant scholar trope is…not exactly what this meme suggests. Academics certainly can have strongly held beliefs, but often are very good at gauging their own certainty. If a professor is lamenting that data taken around 3:17pm always looks bad, and the janitor says “well the electric tram goes by around then” — well, I have never met a professor or postdoc who wouldn’t take that very seriously.
In software development you have contractors and product owners who forge ahead and do things without consulting subject matter experts. This often leads to spaghetti code and rushed garbage when things ultimately need to be patched.
So wigs, not mittens.
I’ve seen something like this referenced a couple times now, what is it?
Answering that question comes with a nobel price attached i presume.
What we know is this:
They are made during roman times, They are found wherever the roman empire stretched and there not considered very rare
Thats about it.
The notable theories are
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as a weird currency
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well known blacksmith “exam”
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for knitting, apparently it has been demonstrated that you can use them to knit in practice but the art of knitting is thought to originate much later in history.
My money is now on wig building tools. As a spinoff to the common knitting one.
My first reaction to seeing these objects was “they look like jointing frames for combining multiple rods”. You’d feed long cylindrical rods into the holes, then use the little knobs to affix them, using them as anchor points for tying the rods into place with string/rope (presumably the rods would have grooves in them to take the rope). Maybe you could make a little tent in this manner, something light, perhaps a bug net for your bed, or something along those lines. Or maybe they were already describing atomic structures 🤓
Complete nonsense, of course. But that was just my first reaction!
This might be the highest effort Lemmy comment yet? Great quality on these drawings, clear and concise, and genuinely makes you think and wonder. I give you this award: 🏆
Revere the ancient K’nex
I’ve lived for 33 years, 12 or so if those years heavily featuring K’nex and only after reading your comment realised that K’nex is a phonetic play on “connects”.
This comment is also true for me
My personal theory - used as a quick method for evaluating the value of gold and silver coins.
Holes are for diameter, the bumps are used to estimate thickness.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_dodecahedron
Roman dodecahedra date from the 2nd to 4th centuries AD and their purpose remains unknown. They rarely show signs of wear, and do not have any inscribed numbers or letters.
Emphasis mine.
I use them for crafting
Image: a Prime Chaotic Resonator crafting orb from the ARPG Path of Exile.
This is after step one, cut a hole in the box.
And that’s the way you do it!
lmao I didn’t get past the first sentence before I knew it was sewn/braided
I’d trust a hairdresser when it comes to hair questions…
Bad at styling my long hair but I have definitely tried and from what I did in the few hair tutorials I followed, and from knitting, I absolutely believe that making these complicated, pretty, structured knots/loops was done by sewing.
She also has a YouTube channel!
Some of the hairstyles by Janet Stevens.
There’s a video that shows more, but there’re advertisements and it’s irritating.
Aren’t weaves basically sewn in?
You post this and let us wonder how this might actually work without any pictures of the replicas??? :O
ETA: here are some examples in the video, unfortunately not the one in the meme…
https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424127887324900204578286272195339456
How do you sew hair?
Haven’t black women been doing this forever? My coworkers talk about sew-in weaves and shit all the time.
loops
That sounds incredibly tedious for anyone with hair shorter than “eligible to be donated to replace a horse tail”
I can’t imagine a human being doing something tedious for style, I mean can you imagine.
Ever time I see someone wearing their pants almost around their knees, I reminded myself about this fact.
Is there a source for these haughty, cackling archeologists making fun of hairdressers or is that just to manufacture some kind of underdog victory scenario?
The latter. “everybody clapped” clickbait.
If you want an actual example of a haughty, cackling asshole ignoring a woman’s expertise, this clip of Joe Rogan will make your blood boil
a haughty, cackling asshole ignoring a woman’s expertise
Boy howdy, that’s a spot-on description. Never listened to him because I expected it to be trash; but I didn’t realize the situation was so dire
Motherfucker leans into sensationalism and shock-value, because he’ll be forgotten as soon as he shuts the fuck up—and of course he won’t have any useful skills to hold a job with real value afterward. Fucking cowardly shits, afraid to work on something of substance when the fame/infamy runs dry
So yeah, it indeed made my blood boil a little lol. Wish I could say it was mostly pity for him being so… dumb? But nah, that’s a person acting like garbage and should be treated as such (until proven otherwise)
To be fair, while I haven’t listened to a ton of Rogan, that’s easily the most openly vile thing I’ve heard from him. And it’s not from his show, he’s a guest on some call in show. It’s also an older clip.
Usually his schtick is a lot more subtle, “I’m just asking questions, I’m just open to hearing all sides, I just happen to platform Nazis and never give more than weak pushback on their opinions because I’m so open, also I think trans people are evil”
You know. You know the fuckin type.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janet_Stephens
Meme is dramaticised of course.
That’s really funny
Also, why does that have to be the only solution? There were wet things that turned harder when they dried back then, too.
I love this story because just imagine the setup.
All the top world archaeologists are in the biggest archaeology summit trying to figure this out. The queer son of the most famous archaeologist was visiting because his dad was trying to make him a real man and follow science instead of fashion. He takes a look at the poorly design slides being project and makes a snarky remark. “they’re definitely sewed 💀😭💅”. But everyone made fun of him so he took it personally. The next day he came back with an exact replica of the hair style sewed on his bestie’s hair. In awe, everyone got up and clapped. The kid’s name? Albert fucking Einstein.
Not sure whether you meant to express disbelief or just to be silly, but you did make me wonder if this meme was legit or not. It is!
Yes, but also:
And the journals quickly recognized her expertise.
So no crying historians in that story. She researched, proposed an article and the community said: “Good idea!” The whole “Oh, all those fine scientists laughed about the average joe/jane!” is just a common tale in those stories.
It’s a common conservative thing to own the libs.
Also wasn’t so fast:
Through trial and error she found that she could achieve the hairstyle by sewing the braids and bits together, using a needle. She dug deeper into art and fashion history books, looking for references to stitching.
In 2005, she had a breakthrough. Studying translations of Roman literature, Ms. Stephens says, she realized the Latin term “acus” was probably being misunderstood in the context of hairdressing. Acus has several meanings including a “single-prong hairpin” or “needle and thread,” she says. Translators generally went with “hairpin.”
If “acus” means that, then i wonder, how does “abacus” mean a thing you count with? Etymology is fascinating :)
Wow, that’s some serious anthropology, that’s awesome!
Thanks to you and @Ophioparma@feddit.de both for pointing those things out. I was only checking the part about the hairstyle being made through sewing, and didn’t think to check for dramatization, so I may have retold or personally internalized the story that goes with the sewing fact exactly as told in the meme. Or onlookers might have.
Definitely just being silly. Thank you do much for the link. I just disliked how dramatized the meme version sounded and doubled down on it.
Same vibes as this video with Adam Savage. Apparently this piece of armour was a big mystery with tons of different drawings etc trying to place it as horse armour when Adam almost immediately correctly identifies it when first looking at it.
This is the power of diverse experience where experts can have a blind spot that’s easily solved by others that have a different perspective.
Tldw crouch protector, and the historians did know that.
Well it took them 50 years to figure out, whereas Adam guessed it immediately.
Didn’t they confirm it after 50 years? They had suspicions in different directions, including crotch armor?
Yeah this is the key point in all of this. You can speculate forever, until you can confirm it your confidence will be very low.
Cross disciplinary skills for the win yo!