• CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
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      30 days ago

      Yeah, that’s actually the least dumb one after a stable job. Everyone wants money, status and love. Even pride in your nation can be cringe, depending on how justified that pride actually is.

      Of course, women are not objects, so I’m unclear how they would pull handing them out off… It’s going to be a robot RealDoll thing, isn’t it?

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        Even pride in your nation can be cringe, depending on how justified that pride actually is.

        As a German who was raised long after WW2 let me just say that pretty much all pride in your nation is pretty cringe, no matter how justified. The one exception would be maybe if you had a major part in improving your nation personally.

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          Hmm. Should I be proud my nation accepts more immigrants than anybody else? If we stopped, I’d stop being proud, so the way I’ve thought of it that doesn’t make me a nationalist. I certainly don’t want to be a nationalist.

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        29 days ago

        Free healthcare and commissary access already causes marriages. A defined length contract wouldn’t be the worst thing in human history. But I’m not sure it’s up to modern ethical standards.

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          If you can’t leave early, yeah it wouldn’t be. If you can I don’t really see what that adds.

          Arguably legal marriages that are hard and expensive to leave are anachronistic themselves.

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            29 days ago

            Oh gosh I wasn’t thinking of an enlistment. I was thinking about a normal job contract.

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        They could probably get girls signing up if they posted ads saying that they’re looking for stay at home girlfriends/boipussy for servicemen. Lots of states with no easy way to escape have desperate people unfortunately.

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          Yeah, but you can already dependa without government help. I guess just a sugardaddy-style dating site run by the DoD, then?

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          I don’t disagree, but hoo boy so do most human beings - especially in the modern West where we have a ghost story called meritocracy. Your example tells me you see it too, so I’ll skip the awkward attempt at nailing it down with a definition.

          Actually, I do disagree a bit. I wish people took me seriously IRL. I don’t need anything more than that though.

        • I disagree.

          It doesn’t really matter whether you have a Janitor available every day or just one day every week.

          But you will really notice if you have a surgeon available every day or just one day of the week.

          Please note that I explicitly don’t have the opinion that janitors aren’t important. If they weren’t, they wouldn’t exist and noone would pay for them.

          But saying that they are just as important as a surgeon just simply isn’t true.

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            But saying that they are just as important as a surgeon just simply isn’t true.

            Yeah, but I never said that. I said “janitors are just as important as nurses and software engineers” because “all labor has value”

            To be clear, I do agree that not all jobs are strictly equal in value. But lets shift our perspective a little: is the life of a CEO worth more than the janitor? I don’t think so. And yet the janitor often trades more of his life for far less pay. I think the time the janitor is sacrificing is just as precious to him as the CEO’s time is to the CEO.

            The main point I would argue is that anyone sacrificing the best hours of the best years of their life deserves a living wage and basic respect / dignity.

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        Before. America’s Army dropped for the PC in ‘02. I feel like grunts were getting chargers from like 06-current. Could be wrong though

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        I heard they had to limit people at West Point from playing as all the cadets were learning to shoot first and ask questions later.

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          30 days ago

          From my experience trying it out they should have made sure no-one had any grenades.

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          Some units did use it as a training tool, but only in conjunction with actual classes and closed matches. So wacky game stuff was very much not allowed. You had to move and fight as a team. For what it’s worth, when I organized some guys to work like a real fireteam the game massively rewarded it in public matches.

          For shoot/don’t shoot training without a designated training area (the infamous back 40 of most bases) the Army uses a laser system with compressed air guns. A video plays and you’re expected to interact with it like you would in real life. So there’s a trainer there noting the exact moment you went lethal, if you did the correct de-escalation before hand, and your marksmanship after you start shooting. The scenarios also have branching possibilities so you can’t just recognize which one is which. You actually have to work the problem and hope for the best.

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        What’s funny is I know someone with like, 2000 hours in that game. And it just happened to be his favorite fps, nothing to do with the army propaganda.

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          It’s well balanced, has great level design, and the game mood is serious enough that the scenarios and matches are taken serious too. It’s rare to have someone run in guns blazing for more than a couple matches. Overall, it has a fun gameplay loop that takes itself seriously without being over the top. They know it’s a recruiting tool, so it has to be good enough that folks want to play.

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          It’s honestly a solid lane shooter FPS, but it falls flat of the Battlefield killer it could have been. Enough realism and no respawns to make you treat it seriously, but it’s also not ArmA levels of “welp, time to respawn and drive/walk to the objective for 15 minutes”

          Plus doing the training unlocks the squad role slots for online play, get that season pass shit outta my face

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        They made the most realistic game and people complained it wasn’t real enough. I will never forget that. And the slow weapon upgrades was because there weren’t any originally. Then you had to complete a stealth mission with one possible path that you had to crawl through for an hour. And the weapons weren’t available on every map.

        In many ways the game proved we didn’t want super realism. We wanted fake realism with tactical fashion.

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        I enjoy a good FPS, even military sim styles like Battlefield, but that also why I wouldn’t join the real military. I enjoy it as a game, a fantasy where none actually get physical injured and everyone goes home at the end of a battle. I’ve seen enough “video game” violence to know I have zero desire to see the real thing or do such things to other people.

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          Battlefield isn’t a milsim. Aside from the few milsim communites that have existed over the years and mods like Project Reality, Battlefield games were never really the most realistc deptiction of warfare.

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        AA2 and AA3 were fucking fantastic, despite AA3 becoming early access abandonware within like ten seconds of its release. AA4 was awful.