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Was lucky to contribute to a paper for the first time recently and was certainly suprised to see what peer reviews looked like lmao
Is it better or worse than code reviews in programming? Typically, if it’s 5 lines, we scrutinize everything. If it’s 500 lines, it’s a quick scan with a “looks good” comment.
I’d say its similar. Though from the limit dataset of peer reviews I have, I’d say that peer reviews are more informative / detailed while code reviews usually have way less typos lol.
Gonna need to build a second LHC!
Need another James Webb too, better get started.
You can take the same data, or data from different observations, and show that the analysis is sound.
there are a couple journals where peer review means the former. one that i can think of is Organic Sytheses orgsyn.org
So it’s like a crowd strike code review
I do trust scientists about peer review more than code reviews. This is how I imagine the crowd strike reviewer.
Scientists can get really petty in peer review. They won’t be able to catch if the data was manipulated or faked, but they’ll be able to catch everything else. Things such as inconclusive or unconvincing data, wrongful assumptions, missing data that would complement and further prove the conclusion, or even trivial things such as a sentence being unclear.
It generally works as long as you can trust that the author isn’t dishonest
A LOT of things work without safety nets if people engage honestly.
The problem, with FAR more than science, is many, many people are distinctly NOT honest.
It’s a numbers game.
- X submits paper to Journal 1, and peers A,B,C reject it.
- X submits paper with minor changes to Journal 2, and only peers D and E reject it.
- X submits paper with minor changes to Journal 3, and only peer G rejects it
- X submits paper with minor changes to Journal 4, and no one rejects it.
Science.
He typed using technology that wouldn’t exist but for Science.
I believe in the scientific method. I believe in peer review.
I just don’t like that scientific journals have become so commodified that a lesser journal would accept volumes of bad science and bad review in order to boost its rankings whilst boosting the prestige of the scientist who is measured on the quantity of their work and not the quality.
Entire paper mills exist purely for this reason, and it’s a scourge on the scientific community.
Fair. TY for clarifying
Yeah that wasn’t at all the impression I got from their first comment
Did peer F get murdered for indicating they were going to reject the paper? 🔍🧐
peer F accepted the paper
FTo doubt
NOT science. At all. That’s publication and clout. Two things science distinctly is NOT, but needs because information must still disseminate in some way.
…Today years old, what the fuck? Is this how so much bunk science makes it to the front-pages of supposedly-science-related websites?
Yes. There’s no prestige in spending time and money on trying to falsify other people’s results, even though it’s the crux of everything. People would rather spend their time working on their own discovery.
I never learned peer review as anything more than others in the field reviewing the paper and confirming it meets standards. Its like logic vs truth. Peer review is like proofreading. Is the structure of the experiment proper. Is there controls. Is the statistical analysis proper. so on and so forth. Honestly though science is dependent on replication which used to be a sort of competition so it worked. Oh you think this is this and this is how you proved it. Well I will see for myself and I will lambast you if it does not work. It was kinda personal with the field before modern times. Competition was very direct. Now no lab wants to do anything but something they can say is new and a discovery. I feel at least 50% of public science funding should be for experiment replication
Sounds like maybe you learned about it from some kind of actual education, not just reading about it on social media. That’s cheating.
Is there controls?Rejected.
Edit this is a petty peer review joke. Please clap
Thank the greed. Even bad results should be kept. It’s still knowledge. To get closer to a goal, many mistakes are made and we have to learn from them. Using the scientific method to find out that something does not work is still valuable.
This is a lesson I try to teach my kids every day. When they get upset they can’t do something, I ask, “well whatd you learn?” And sometimes it’s as simple as “that didn’t work.” Other times they think for a second they try something new.
Failure is a learning opportunity. Take advantage if it.
The ones that fail peer review go from “unexpected result” to “the fuck were you actually doing?!?”
I’m just happy they learned what peer review means. I doubt even a third of Americans know what it means or its impact on their lives
Wait deadass?!?!? If so then 20 lol
Best part is the reviewers don’t get paid for their work, the publishers pocket all of the money they get from selling journals
While charging researchers to publish the paper and the reader for accessing it. If they can get away with it. It’s a fucking scam, thus arxiv and others exist.
I’ve personally had much less respect for global academia ever since I learned how publishing journals can demand so much from researchers and their audience, while providing so little.
In my field, peer review was “obviously hasn’t read enough Foucault”.
LGTM ⛴️
What did you think the “review” part of it meant other than reviewing it?
