• ✺roguetrick✺@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Aliens would need an oxidizer to metabolize as well, even if that oxidizer isn’t oxygen. If they want to actually efficiently get energy out of things, it’ll need to be a strong one. Even fermentation is a oxidation-reduction reaction that just doesn’t use oxygen.

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      2 months ago

      If we ever found a species that was made of alcohol we would absolutely dominate, err domestic them as quickly as possible.

  • SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de
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    2 months ago

    We’re also reliant on water and are mostly made out of it. water is such a “universal solvent”, it’s quite OP. It dissolves so much, that we don’t even think about it

    We’re death breathers, but also basically have acid blood like xenomorphs

  • RagingHungryPanda@lemm.ee
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    2 months ago

    In Becky Chambers’ Wayfarer series, there is a species who actually breathes methane. The focus though is less on how that actually happens and more on how they navigate as the only species for whom oxygen is toxic. It’s a great series, btw. It’s a not-quite-as-optimistic as star trek future, but still optimistic and with a vast range of species who are all intermingling as learning how to get along.

  • Zink@programming.dev
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    2 months ago

    Powerful oxidizers are dangerous stuff!

    One I’ve learned about recently (and used) is potassium permanganate. One of its uses is for improving water quality in fish ponds. It oxidizes basically all organic matter. It can simultaneously knock out algae, bacteria, parasites, hormones, and other excess organic waste. And the pathogens it kills can’t build up resistance to it like they would an antibiotic or poison, so it can be used preventively without creating stronger bugs. You can’t really build resistance to BURNING outside video games.

    But that also means that if you add too much, you can just as easily sterilize all life in a body of water, including fish and anything else you want to keep.

    AND it means you need to be careful when handling it. If you burn your eyes or your lungs, it makes them stop working!

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    2 months ago

    Oxygen is so crazy that once microbiology in the ancient oceans started producing it, all life on earth nearly died. Like very nearly sterilized the earth.

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      2 months ago

      At high concentrations, its still fucking awful for us. Easy to forget that the atmosphere is still only 21% Oxygen and 78% Nitrogen. Even setting aside the risks of fire and explosion at higher concentrations, this highly reactive substance degrades the nervous and musculature system.

      You wouldn’t want to wander around in a fully oxygenated environment for the same reason you wouldn’t want to drive your car through a lake of gasoline.

  • Remotedeck@discuss.tchncs.de
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    2 months ago

    I’m just going to ask because I think this is true but I’m not certain and nobody’s talking about it. Antioxidants are BS right?

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    2 months ago

    I wonder if you could something like a magnesium atomosphere where if a human it got a hole in their suit it would cause them to burst into flames as the outside pressure forced it’s way in then reacted with the oxygen and water in our suit and body