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Longtime software dev here. I complain about code bugs all the time - I’m like, who the fuck wrote and tested this piece of crap?
The answer is probably you.
10% of the time its me. 90% of the time it’s me from the past.
Instead you report them
True. Now I’m more triggered by the mere existence of some bugs because I can’t fucking fathom how they’d even exist in the first place.
No I for sure complain, but for date bugs… I’ll be forgiving
False
Learn to code and you will never stop complaining.
As a software engineer, annoying bugs that should be so simple to fix are so frustrating! I wish I could just have a crack and fixing it myself!
That’s what I love so much about open source. Currently have a fork of kiTTY going, working on tracking down a little bug I found in my daily use.
This can also be one of the frustrating parts of open source.
Find something you don’t like? Fix it. Will the repo owner approve your pull request? Who knows. Maybe they’re a bit absentee. Maybe they view the original behavior as working as designed. Maybe your design doesn’t fit their architectural model, so they’ll (eventually) heavily refactor your changes and merge them in.
You can always stand up a fork, but keeping those two at feature parity and going in the same general direction can become harder and harder with time.
That’s not to say not to try! But it also means reaching out to the repo owners/maintainers before making your first change.
100%, sounds interesting! I’m going to spend some time tomorrow looking at a bug in the jellyfin android TV app related to DTS audio over HDMI.
Whenever I feel like this I think back to how many of those “simple” bugs I’ve had to fix in my own code and how many years it took off my life expectancy and feel a little connection with the poor developer who is probably currently losing their hair over this too
Definitely true, I dread to think about how much tech debt these companies have. 😬
If you only use Free Open Source software, you can!
Unfortunately my bank, government, national health, surgery, local shops, food delivery services, etc. don’t open source their code. It’d be nice if they did however.
They wouldn’t want you to know it all depends on a Frankensteined chunk of spaghetti’d COBOL that hasn’t been updated since a guy they forgot about set it up before he retired in like 1996. And they’re just betting that, if they don’t look at it too hard, it won’t oopsie a cascade of critical failures.
Funnily enough, the one you’d expect this from, the bank, I used to work for, it’s all Go and running on k8s in aws.
There are FOSS core-banking systems
True open source software runs on frustrated developers
But yeah, that is a really nice part of FOSS. I have myself been in situations where I just went and fixed a big myself because it annoyed me lol
No it just makes me even more frustrated. The amount of incompetence and neglect I see and have to deal with on a daily basis, even with software developed by multi-million dollar corporations, is astonishing.
Why is modern webdev such a clusterfuck? Why does VisualStudio take multiple seconds to open an empty project? Why does Nvidia’s control panel have multiple seconds long pauses to switch between settings categories or loading lists? Why does this game run like garbage on a 4090 when it has mostly static environments and the graphics aren’t even that good?
I could go on but I’d be here all day. All of those things, with the exception of webdev (because god there’s so much shit in there…), could be easily fixed* or should’ve never gotten that bad in the first place.
*Provided the entire architecture isn’t garbage, otherwise see the rest of the sentence…
Why is modern webdev such a clusterfuck?
Not a webdev.
Have tried multiple times to “finally figure out how this web stuff works because I’d like a nice website that isn’t a huge chonky slowpoke WordPress install with ad-infested plugins.”
I can’t do it. Gamedev is hard, but makes 1000x more sense than whatever cargo-cult bubblegum-and-hope the modern web runs on.
I probably should learn JS, but I’m very hesitant to even bother with it because it feels like an insane time commitment. Like getting a doctorate from scratch in something you’re not SUPER jazzed about or starting OnePiece from Ep 1.
“Oh cool, you learned that thing everyone complains about! But you know nothing until you get good at ~30 out of 400 different highly opinionated frameworks.”
The input to result ratio just doesn’t seem like it’s there. O.o Maybe I’m just a noob but this is my experience lol.
And don’t even get me started on RAM-munchy Electron apps.
“Why yes, I WOULD love a separate instance of Chrome running for every
messengerapp I use! And I love when Discord is the only support resource! :D”–Nob’dy Ev’r, 2025 A.D
Have fun with JS, everyones most consistent and beloved language.
My favorite part is empty array truthiness. [] is falsy ( [] == true returns false ), but ![] is false. !![] is obviously true. (! is inversion as in all normal languages)
You might enjoy learning vanilla js and making a site with as few deps as you can get away with. Or a lightweight framework like svelte or preact. The browser stack is definitely some weird shit but it’s still somewhat approachable if you dig under the abstractions that most web devs never venture beyond. It definitely helped me cut through all the manufactured noise.
Hey that’s really helpful, thank you for taking the time to share! I really appreciate it. :) I really should take another crack at it.
And I know much of it is not necessarily the fault of the devs, with management and deadlines preventing them from doing the best possible job, I myself was forced to release half broken updates a few times because of that, but they are not the only problem.
There’s a real problem in today’s programming culture with thinking that computers are so fast, any garbage code you write will be fast enough, or that you only need to optimize the hot path. Apply that philosophy throughout all your codebase, and suddenly there is no hot path, everything runs like shit. People should also actually learn how things work, not just frameworks, otherwise they won’t be able to make informed decisions about what they write.
Also stuff like “Clean Code” and other similarly dogmatic principles still permeate many of the codebases I see. Nigh implementable jungles of <10 lines long functions and OOP garbage that make working with everything a massive pain, other than making every function call virtual and thrashing performance. You need to maintain such a massive amount of context in your head just to figure out the flow of a particular piece of code, with the aid of a debugger because everything is done through abstract classes or interfaces, that even making the smallest change becomes a tedious and error prone task.
Also fuck dynamically typed languages. They suck, every single one of them.
It’s absolutely the fault of the devs, they built it Also why hate dynamic langs ?
I can code pretty well. I’m a qa tester. Complaining about videogames is my mostprechious pasttime
I still complain about bugs, but instead of blaming devs or qa I blame managerial positions and stakeholders.
Huge bug in game exists:
Non dev gamers: “How didn’t they catch this blatant issue?”
Dev gamers: “How many times the issue was addressed just to be told to work on something else with greater priority like <random stupid thing>?”
I code and i ruthlessly bash devs
Oh i love you!
I must have learned programming wrong, then, because dear ducking god, the amount of incompetent shit I have to see is surreal.
One system we’ve got from a different state was marketed as having geolocation. It doesn’t. All object relations have to be created manually in a separate page, as in, you register a city, then register an address, THEN, on a different page, you connect the two. Now imagine this for some 24 objects. It has some specific profile permissions hard coded by id (like, only profile with id 4 can create some stuff)
This is just the shit I remember off the top of my head. The cherry on top is that they didn’t validate unique emails for users, you could have 999 users with the same email and no way for them to reset their passwords. I asked why: “we didn’t think about it”
This read like a movie review. I love movie reviews.
Don’t watch this movie! Died by the second half. My neighbors called SWAT on me cuz the movie script was that bad, the actors completely unlikable, and the direction almost nonexistent. The CGI was not bad if it was 1990s. There was almost no humorous scenes. Just wet paint dripping dialogue by actors that couldn’t fake an emotion or facial expression to save their life.
Every time a critic dies a little on the inside
Can’t get enough. The opener is always fresh and hilarious
Feel your pain there, my second and longest role was doing automated phone systems(IVR) and sadly Everytime I call another company I hear all of their fuckups
I asked why: “we didn’t think about it”
I have Simon Pegg in Hot Fuzz ringing in my ears: “IT’S YOUR JOB!”
You won’t have time after spending all day complaining about bad documentation.
You mean missing documentation?
I seem to complain more, actually.
Seriously, every time I see null interpolated in a receipt or email I always think “you fucking donkeys”.
Dear {{ user.first_name }}, We would like to personally thank you for registering at {{ brand.name }}! Regards, {{ employee.name }}Like, it printing out “Null”?
Yeah
It’s a bell curve.
Now i complain about both the bugs in my games and the bugs in other games
