That is an accurate representation of what is happening. Kudos to whoever made this.
Right it’s insane the number of bot amounts that are aggressively trying to push this narrative. And they’re attacking anyone who doesn’t agree with them disturbing times
And what do we do with nazis?
Shoot them on sight, they’re enemy combatants 😏
Punch them in the face.
That is a lot milder than what I was taught.
It’s much easier if you remove the face first.
But you do realize they didn’t celebrate “not getting banned by court” with their small group of a few lads but winning presidency with likely a sizable chunk of voters fully supporting them in even their more crude views?
Hammer in their head
You guys are really disturbingly violent. Isn’t the Nazis being violent the reason why people don’t like Nazis. You seem just as bad
It’s self defense. They want me dead by definition.
Well obviously that’s wrong
But going out and trying to kill them is no better.
None of it should happen.
I see you would struggle with the trolley problem. Look up some pictures of Nazi’s smiling next to large piles of emaciated corpses and tell me that I’m just as bad for wanting them dead.
No body should want any body dead. I’m against violence of any kind.
If only the Russians thought like you, then the Nazi’s would’ve won. Perhaps you like that more than having a spine.
I don’t threaten people with violence. You’re just as bad as them, if you think violence is the solution.
::Checks username:: Oh so that’s why you’re slow.
Multiple accidents in a row. Accidentally doing the same thing multiple times with a smile on your face. Enthusiastically making a mistake, repeating it, and not commenting about the mistake.
These are all examples of how people act when they make mistakes.
We need to stop using the word ‘accident’. Accident my hole, he wanted to see if he could get away with it. So far he has.
Also accidentally following a ton of Nazi accounts on Twitter and replying ‘interesting!’ or ‘you’re absolutely right!’ whenever those accounts blame the Jews/globalists/immigrants for anything.
Also saying the afd was the way to save Germany
it would have been better if it was a smile; he looked a bit too angry while talking “about his heart”
I swear this admin could hang up a giant swastika flag in the Oval Office and the media would defend it as “they’re just honoring Usha Vance’s Hindu heritage, it doesn’t matter that it’s diagonal in a white circle on a red background with the 14 Words underneath, it’s a symbol of peace and prosperity”
The centre is the actual ones looking like the guy on the left. Everyone else is celebrating, either “I fucking told you so”, “oh cool, the class war/revolution is going to start for real now” or “yay our kinda guy”.
Tf are you on about?
Either it’s that or I’m far leftist I guess, because the guy on the left is what I’ve been feeling like since I saw that salute.
When you make a Nazi salute and you’re an average person making less than $60,000 a year and barely making ends meet … you are a right wing extremist Nazi that is hated by the general public.
When you make a Nazi salute and you control over $400 billion … there is cause for debate and questions about whether or not it was a Nazi salute
This is all based on whether he made a nazi sign and he didn’t god you guys are relentless.
Sending your heart out does not make you a nazi
I do believe a lot of people – and the mainstream news media here in the states – want to believe this is normal and this is fine the way Trump kept wishing on camera COVID-19 was going to just go away on its own, even as CDC discovered enough instances to declare it has infected the community (e.g. the American public) and could no longer be contained via specific isolation.
They are so desperate to for things to be normal that they want to justify the outrageousness as within the threshold of normal any way they can.
I’m not sure, but Trump behaves as if he likes pushing that envelope, much the way he forced Robert Kennedy Jr. to eat McDonalds to assert dominance.
As a republican…yeaahhh
Yeah what?
Fucked up what Elon did. Can’t justify it or nothing
Center here, it was a full blown nazi salute and every other european centrist I know also know it was a full blown nazi salute. We dont want to assosciate with the people saying it wasn’t a nazi salute, they are either insanely stupid or undercover nazis.
Center-right, previously strong (not far) right. That was clearly two Nazi salutes done by a drugged out oligarch. There’s no way around it.
It was definitely questionable. People saying it’s 100% are being unreasonable. There’s a large interpretation here.
And calling people names and trying to bully people into accepting your view is disturbing.
He threw his hand out from his heart and said my heart goes out to you. It’s definitely questionable.
No doubt about the gesture. Why are literal neo nazis all over neo nazi media super happy about it? Why is the only video record of such heartfelt gestures from modern nazi rallies or black and white and in german/italian? only question is why a man from a nazi family backing a party who is changing the constitutuon in order to harass minorities would do such a thing. 3 times in a row.
If you think the gesture means heartfelt thanks go do it infront of a synagogue, infront of your boss and in a highly public place. Its an EXTREMELY common gesture americans use all the time, right?
Don’t point to a swastika and tell me it’s a windmill.
What was performed, is a textbook nazi salute. Start to finish.
No the hands grabbing the heart isn’t. Actual Nazis have said this.
And then throwing it out to the crowd is different.
WW2, might seem like a long time ago. But it really isn’t. We have video footage of Hitler himself. Performing this exact routine.
Would you like me to spoon-feed you a side by side comparison?
As a European center, does that put you between the radical far left (community based government, right to eat, right to housing, right to education, medical care for all, meeting and exceeding the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights, etc.) and the radical far right (Monarchy, Totalitarian Oligarchy, the thing that Trump and Musk want, and will have to fight for)?
Or is it centrist as in between Neoliberal and MAGA?
The reason I ask is because here in the states Centrist means the latter, e.g. people who still hate the homeless and expect immigrants to go through (nonexistent for most) legal channels.
It puts us at free education including university, free healthcare, shorter work week and days, human rights, right to self govern, limits to make housing affordable, electricity affordable, not to pollute, you know all the shit that we have and want to keep. Leaning left or right mostly means how you want the money for all that to come from and questions like how to deal with immigration. I personally believe the way to utopia is through making free specialized or higher education possible for even those who have nothing as educated population doesn’t elect stupid ass parties, is wealthy and pays more taxes to support the society.
extreme left wants to use violence in order to get rid of everyone they deem unfit for their ideal society extreme right wants to use violence in order to get rid of everyone they deem unfit for their ideal society
If it’s any consolation, in Australia that’d make you far-left.
extreme left wants to use violence in order to get rid of everyone they deem unfit for their ideal society
lmao there’s a difference between using violence to remove the capitalist class from power and using violence to genocide minorities.
I know you are being downvoted but I feel similar for the most part, I do find that not all countries versions of the left-centre-right divide marry up to each other and even the terminologies can get confusing. e.g in UK we have Liberal Democrats who are the only Centre party but the word Liberal in there can cause confusion for others. In Scotland we have free education including all the way through to degrees at universities etc thought that was started by the left wing government, the centre party wants to keep it as does the right wing.
I cant be upset about downvoting. Americans have to deal with it, not my problem. And they will get third and fourth term if they keep downvoting people who don’t self identify as extreme left or view violence as a solution. Those “eat the rich” folk have been fed propaganda material on the silver platter and all they do is alienate popular support they need for a functional society even further. Fuck them then.
Leaning left or right mostly means how you want the money for all that to come from
You just have no study of history or politics, that’s the difference. You believe that “high education” will magically solve wealth inequality, oligarchy/monopoly, and the drive for ever-increasing and maximized profit that is intrinsically opposed to a welfare state and to ecological conservation.
Restrictions implanted to not let companies exploit people do that. Takes not stupid people to make smart decisions. Works in my country. Works for welfare states. I’m fine in my country. We were part of the soviet union, we know exactly how oppression, totaliatarian control of the ruling class, genocide, mass murder, oligarchy run government, inequality and systematic ecological catastrophies look like. This is why we want to do better.
Restrictions implanted to not let companies exploit people do that
And how are you exactly going to do that as long as companies control the government, as they do in capitalism? How’s regulation working so far, with every country violating the IPCC recommendations?
Works in my country. Works for welfare states
Bullshit. All “welfare states” rely on unequal exchange through the exploitation of the global south. Without poor people on the other side of the world extracting resources for misery wages and toiling their lives away at sweatshops, your country would have no welfare.
We were part of the soviet union, we know exactly how oppression, totaliatarian control of the ruling class, genocide, mass murder, oligarchy run government, inequality and systematic ecological catastrophies look like.
How old were you exactly in 1991?
I don’t think it was an accident. I mostly lean towards it being a troll move to spark outrage.
It can be two things.
It was to spark outrage, and to call out his racist Nazi Homies on the right.
Exactly.
Almost like that’s the point.
I know you people hate the centre, but thats a pretty far right Portrait of the centre
I don’t understand why everyone who says this is downvoted in this thread. Saying that the apologists of a fascist who gave the Nazi salute on national television are more right that centre seems like a pretty reasonable stance.
What would you call news outlets like the New York Times?
Idk, I’m not american
Edit: but if they defended the “he didn’t mean to do that” stance, then they are far closer to the right than they think
American centrists are right wing by other countries standards. The anti defamation league, an American organization that supposedly fights antisemitism, is saying its not a nazi salute. Idk what they are smoking.
A lot of people defending Elon but I still haven’t seen Elon defend Elon. Concerning.
I think he made some tweets about it
What did he say? I only saw him reply to a tweet saying that accusing everyone of being Nazi is getting tired, but I didn’t see that he actually commented on the salute.
Yeah i don’t think be ever explained what that gesture was supposed to be, he only retweeted posts and memes that were in his defense
Edit: i just watched the full clip for the first time, i didn’t know he says “my heart goes out to you” after so i guess that’s his alibi
He reportedly did a tweet mocking people for calling him Hitler (which I saw in elsewhere since I’m not a user of his site). Incredibly, of all people, the ADL also chirped out the same “it was an accident” line as the media.
ADL? What’s that? Aryan Defense League?
The Anti-Defamation League is an influential NGO that’s supposed to fight antisemitism. Probably because Trump has repeatedly shown a fondness for Netanyahu, they’re apparently throwing Jewish people under the bus to sweep this under the rug.
More like AIPAC Defense League
The association of German National Jews supported Hitler. Turns out it was a mistake.
Apartheid Defense League
I hate these filthy Neutrals, Kif. With enemies you know where they stand but with Neutrals, who knows? It sickens me.
If I don’t survive, tell my wife hello.
Code beige
I don’t know what you hope to accomplish with these memes other than pushing people to the right… Like is that the goal? Because it seems like that’s the goal. It’s a constant strawman fallacy with the same bullshit format the far right uses in their memes.
I hate that this is a meme.
