I also had no idea the top portion of the Starship Enterprise could separate like that. That was pretty sweet.

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    Idk John DeLancie has that “Tim Curry” energy where he chews the scenery well and is fun to watch but wasn’t much a fan of Season 1 Q.

    It gets better.

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    Hot take: you don’t fully appreciate Q until you’ve watched all the episodes he’s in. That includes the ones in Deep Space Nine, Voyager, and My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic.

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    I hated him in the first couple of episodes too; but when TNG started, I get like everything was overly dramatic. Picard bellowing out heavy-handed soliloquies, Worf growling and gnashing his teeth, Riker swaggering around pretending to be Kirk from the old days… things settle down pretty quickly though, and the characters become less two-dimensional.

    As for Q specifically, he’s not around a whole lot, but he makes an appearance or two per season maybe. He ends up more curious about humanity than being adversarial against humanity, but he still sometimes just throws a monkey-wrench into everything for his own amusement or to test a theory, once in a while.

    Stick with it, it’s a really good show.

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    You’re supposed to kinda hate Q. He plays a recurring role here and there throughout the series, but not a central one.

    The first season of TNG is a bit rough; it definitely improves.

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      Season two also isn’t the greatest. But its got some solid stories that do affect things later.

      Mostly I just can’t stand Pulaski

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        I don’t like her either, but I would say that’s not because Muldaur is a bad actress, or because she was a bad character.

        For example, her being a dick to Data really helped his character growth. She was abrasive but it really helped TNG grow its beard.

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          100%

          She’s a great actress doing a fantastic job of playing a very unlikable character. Except that she’s not unlikable in the way a good unlikable character is. She’s not the way OP is feeling about Q.

          But it’s not just the way she interacts with Data, which does result in character growth for both of them. I’m sure they were going for the adversarial thing but it didn’t work, with Data or anyone else.

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      He’s like Murdoc from MacGyver. You hate the character but you can sense that he’s going to be defeated eventually and it’ll be a fun ride getting there.

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      I’m not sure Picard actively hates him. However, I do think his reaction is basically the Picard facepalm jpg whenever he interacts with Q.

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        I’m pretty sure the Picard face palm is a shot from S3 episode “Deja Q”. He literally is facepalming at Q.

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        I think to Picard, Q is just this buffoon with god powers and chooses to use them purely for wind ups. He knows he can’t do jack to stop him but scolds him at every opportunity.

        I would have loved one character to just disappear on a massive bender with Q for a while and come back totally fried but just slot back into their spot on the ship

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    How big of an ongoing factor is “Q?” Because I kind of hate him.

    Blaspheme! Will no one rid me of this turbulent critique?

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    Keep going. It get’s much much better. Each season is better than the last, but Season 2 is where the feel of the show stablises and softens; it’ll always be jarring when you go back to season 1 after you pass it. Season 3 is definitely where it starts to hit it’s stride.

    It’s largely an episodic show; you could skip to season 3 and go back to the season 1 & 2 later without missing much. A few recurring characters and themese like do Q make more sense if you watch from the start though.

    If you’re really wavering definitely skip to season 3.

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      This advice here is it, OP. I’ve watched the whole series close to 10 times by now, and sometimes even I skip season 1. However, it does add some good context, and flashbacks in later seasons will make sense and give you a better feeling of attachment to the events if you’ve seen them.

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      While definitely true for the most part, I feel like the first episode is pretty important for a number of other reasons and there are things in season 1 that are explored for Data that are referenced throughout the series.

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          While true of OP, I was responding to the idea that I’ve could skip the entire first season on the first watch.

          The first season is rough but it sets up a lot of things that are touched on in later seasons.

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    Unless you are a completist who’s willing to sit through the less than good episodes, you may want to use an episode guide such as this one which I found useful when I went back to rewatch it. Yes Q is kind of annoying, that’s actually his character and how everyone in the show feels about him too. But there are also some fantastic episodes with him, so once you get to those, you may not hate his presence as much.

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      I feel compelled to recommend this guide by a long time Daystrom Institute contributor. It does an excellent job identifying episodes as essential, unnecessary but fun, mediocre, or outright bad. A good place to work from if you want a more flexible recommendation of what to try and what not to.

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    I felt the exact same way about Q after the first episode both as a character and as a concept for the show. They basically introduced God in the first episode of a science fiction show and he is annoying and arrogant.

    But he is actually one of the best characters by the time the show is over and his all-powerful nature is toned down a little bit.

    Season 1 is pretty goofy and inconsistent overall. Give it a chance and accept it for what it is and by season 4 the writing is some of the best in science fiction TV.

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    He’s a pretty major character, but that only means one or two episodes per season. He’s just got a thing for Picard

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    If it helps - Q introduces a “bad guy” to the series that is so famous that people who haven’t seen the series have heard of them.

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    If you hated him on Next Gen, you’ll really hate him on Deep Space Nine. Fortunately, he only appeared there once.

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    You’re supposed to hate Q. The Enterprise crew hates Q. He is an annoying trickster god.

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      Sisko’s whole attitude to Q is just so damn funny. “I’M NOT PICARD!”