I have a network-wide pi hole and I noticed that it requested activity.windows.com, a url blocked by my pi hole, even while my pc is suspended. I pinged 10.0.0.217 and it is currently unreachable. So, somehow, windows pc’s turn on networking, phones home, and turns off even while suspended.
Creepy behavior
Honestly if you’re still trying to find workaround for Microsofts crap at this point - just switch to Linux.
At this point for me, trying to get games working on Linux has become easier than trying to get telemetry to stop working on Windows.
And since Ive never bought the problematic games before it’s so much easier for me.
I’d encourage anyone to ditch the crappy anticheat broken crap and just go back to playing good high quality games.
Exactly. If something only works on windows, its most likely not worth your time and money.
The exceptions I have seen are many CAD softwares and photo editing software (I use Affinity Photo)
I game on Linux every day.
I wish multiplayer worked across the board but it’s whatever. I don’t have time for it any way haha.
Sorry for the rant but why the hell people still entertain themselves with proprietary Windows games in 2023?!? So much so that they are willing to put up with such utter rubbish of an OS? Man, just play better games, even FOSS ones, on Linux! The proprietary rubbish pay-to-win games should be shunned!
You can’t play VR on linux without significant pain and most VR games are from small devs who don’t do unethical stuff like pay-to-win.
There’s tons of SteamVR for Linux fixes flowing in right now. Assuming Valve doesn’t break anything, the setup on AMD cards with KDE is now just:
- Set GPU to VR performance mode
- Install SteamVR
- Disable async reprojection
- Start SteamVR
Minetest and veloren masterrace
Voltaren masterrace, reporting in.
If you have a wireless Xbox controller it becomes far harder. Xone is what I want to use but then I have xow, xbdrvr and a bunch of other things to deal with. Or if I want to actually use my Nvidia video card to it’s fullest ability, well good luck.
Linux is awesome but has a bit to go for me. Although it’s been that was since it stopped being my daily driver in 2014.
Oh, my daily driver is a linux, i just have a spare surface book 3 i use occasionally for gaming (the thing is surprisingly powerful)
Idk how well linux would support detaching and touchscreen with pen. But I’ll definitely switch the os to linux sometime in the future when i get a new gaming rig.
I am using linux-surface on my surface book 2, works perfectly. BUT the webcam doesn’t work :-)
You know. I disable that crap stuff from bios on my zenbook s.
Someimes broken webcam is a good thing. At least to some…
I have a convertible laptop with pen and it works fine.
In trying it doing that on someone hybrid, not surface but a Lenovo, PopOS! seems to works mostly out-of-box.
Is this machine by any chance a recent laptop?
Newer laptops with Intel cpu (not sure about AMD) don’t have a real sleep mode anymore. Instead, they have a mode where, besides the ram, the cpu and the network device are also kept alive for communication.
In theory, this means that when you wake up your device all of your apps and stuff will already be updated with the latest information from the web with little battery loss. In practice, it just overheats your laptop while in your backpack and kills the battery.
The ping you see while it is “sleeping” might be from this.
It’s such a dumb fucking feature too.
“Oh god forbid my email client and messaging app refresh 5 seconds after I wake my laptop instead of being already refreshed”
Who actually cares? Who on earth asked for this zombie sleep state?Don’t forget the added feature of your laptop overheating and crashing when you put it into your backpack.
Or my personal favorite is when it doesn’t overheat and crash it drains 20% of it’s battery in 15 minutes then goes into hibernation.
I think the worst part is not that they added it, but that they removed regular S3.
Nobody asked for it. And it’s not like they add anything people ask for (or remove things people ask them to get rid of) anyway.
Macbooks are the same way. I have one of my System Bots running on my work laptop (now that I can get away with it) and it wakes up… let me see… somewhere between every half hour to three hours, whether I want it to or not.
This “always on” bullshit is frustrating.
Your phone does the same thing and it’s definitely a good thing.
I expect is more usefull for big files or similar, aka like the consoles standby updates downloads.
A consequence of the endless need for NeW fEaTuReS
Here’s Microsoft’s information page on it:
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/device-experiences/modern-standby
As the time goes I just miss my old laptop more and more. What’s next, no shutdown feature?
That’s one of the ideas with MRAM: buy your device already booted up, no more booting up or shutting down (…or reinstalling, or changing the OS).
Same for most AMD laptops as well.
Hibernate FTW
This is why I disconnect my machines from the network while in sleep mode (I use only wired connections). For me it’s perfectly sufficient if they update the apps while I use them.
Sleep is no longer what it used to be. They killed off S3 sleep in favor of some always connected mode, much like you cell phone.
Which has its pros and cons, but that still doesn’t mean it should invade your privacy.
I only learned this during the pandemic when i started working from home and my work laptop would wake up at 1am, fans blasting 100%
Or my laptop would wake up in my backpack during my commute and drain the whole battery…
I opened a helpdesk ticket and they didnt know why. Their solution was “just turn off your laptop”…
After doing my owm digging, i realized S3 was gone and windows just does whatever the fuck it wants
that’s only newer hardware that meets specific requirements.
It got disabled one day on my 8th Gen i7 XPS. It was driving me crazy trying to figure out why it keep cooking it self alive in my backpack. It’s since been demoted to house use, sleep is still useless even after many FW updates and fresh os install. That thing used to last weeks on battery just closing the lid. Now it can’t make it though the night. I wish I could turn it back on in this case, my new laptop is much better about it.
Oh god another one of these posts…
When pihole blocks a dns request, devices often keep trying to connect until the connection is successful. So yea, no shit it’s ginna keep trying to query that domain repeatedly, including when you’re sleeping.
The thing is, the device was in suspend for a couple days now.
Modern sleep modes are internet connected, with the intent to allow systems to perform updates while sleeping.
I don’t like it but that’s how it’s designed to work.
aka S0 sleep/Modern Standby.
It has some legitimate benefits like returning from sleep immediately. Kinda want it on linux but without all the telemetry crap (but it’s really, really hard to pull of at an OS level)Holy crap. What are you going to do with these 2 seconds saved?
Last 2 seconds longer while bangin ur mom
Your username is terrifying
Then just shut it down lol. It’s gonna ping windows microsoft domains unless it’s actually off.
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So, let me grasp your comment, are you saying that this is not creepy at all?
EDIT: To clarify, I find both things creepy, the telemetry and the insistence to ping home no matter what.
The fact that windows has so much telemetry is creepy yes. The fact that it will keep trying to ping the domain when blocked is not creepy and is basic tech functionality.
are you saying that this is not creepy at all?
Definitely creepy that it phones home in the first place.
But it’s not necessarily creepy that it keeps trying; it could just be sloppy programming. Hanlon’s Razor comes to mind. Microsoft Teams behaved in a similar way apparently. If you blocked it phoning home at the network level it would buffer gigabytes of data on disk until the disk was full.
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I guess so - I’ve actually never used Teams. There are lots of potential mitigations, but sandboxing is not really a solution to buggy code. For some better engineering discussion on the topic, there’s the series of articles Transparent Telemetry, in particular The Design of Transparent Telemetry.
You had me in the first half
What do you mean?
including when you’re sleeping
smug Linux noises
Yeah so smug…it only stops accepting input from my touchpad if i close the lid on my laptop which puts it in sleep mode.
Come on man, he probably just misses his mom.
switch to enterprise if you havent already. enterprise is the only version from “0” data collection mode in Group Policy.
use this for activation: https://github.com/massgravel/Microsoft-Activation-Scripts
How trustable is this script?
its the most recommended one on r/piracy and FMHY.
Here’s another one, its created by a mydigitallife forum member https://github.com/abbodi1406/KMS_VL_ALL_AIO
Thank you.
Check the code yourself
If I were that code literate I wouldn’t have asked would I?
My Windows 10 machine comes up from sleep when nobody is anywhere near it. Seems weird to me. Also sometimes I wake it, sign in and the folder Music>Pictures (the regular Pictures folder… for some reason that’s where it is) is open in explorer. Couldn’t figure out whether it’s malware or Microsoft.
I had something similar a while back, where it was waking up from sleep for no reason. I can’t remember the exact reason, but it had to do with a hardware being allowed to wake the device. I disabled it from being able to wake the machine and haven’t had a problem again. You can use the cmd to find which device woke your pc.
You’re right, it could be a setting in Windows or perhaps the BIOS. I know there is often a ‘wake on LAN’ BIOS setting…
the folder Music>Pictures (the regular Pictures folder… for some reason that’s where it is) is open in explorer.
This sounds like the kind of thing that might happen if you have some kind of automatic sync set up, like when you plug your phone in and it automatically copies photos, or perhaps a cloud service that’s syncing photos?
My phone is never plugged into my computer and I don’t have any service like that running that I know of.
It could be OneDrive (though I don’t use it at all) or even the ghost of the Explorer iCloud plugin.
It’s Big Brother Microsoft just protecting you. If you got nothing to hide you got nothing to worry about!!!
Yeah. It’s amazing how my windows laptop, whilst sleeping, whirrs all its fans up on the middle of the night. I am not suggesting that is it sending out telemetry, but it is fucking infuriating for sleep to mean anything other than “stop doing anything until I tell you to wake up”.
That is because recent laptops don’t “sleep” like before with s4 (hybernate) or other sx.
They have some sort of tucking clock waiting for windows to wake up to check for updates.
In theory it allows to keep everything up to date while people are not working.
However un proactice, it drains battery and overheats laptops, because Microsoft implemented that feature like crap, or the partners did some stupid things.
It was supposed to only activate when the laptop was plugged in. However if the laptop was plugged in, put on sleep, then unplugged, windows still believed that the laptop was plugged in.
Now I don’t know if windows ever solved that issue after people brought it up and Linus from Linus tech tips complained to Microsoft.
Ain’t 10.0.0.217 an private IP?
Yes that is the local ip of the pc phoning home
Yah. That make sense now. I thought that’s what the domain resolved to.
Never used PiHole but Blocky.
yes, it’s for LANs
did you expect it to be a public ip?
Astral projecting
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Bro 10.0.0.27 is the device IP not the destination IP…
He pinged the local IP to check if the network card was up on his suspended machine…
