Drew Barrymore and Bill Maher are now not resuming their shows amid strikes.

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    It’s why the right wing invented ‘cancel culture’, to try to demonize people banding together to change things. This kind of public pressure is a form of people-power. There’s a nasty side to it all, but this is an existential battle for the writers and a mild inconvenience to Drew and Bill. I know what side I’m on.

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    I’m so tired of PR filled apologies by celebrities. Eat shit.

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    this is why it kinda annoys me when people are like ‘posting doesn’t actually do anything’ – true, sure, but sometimes it kinda can, sometimes, and making your voice and argument heard is better than being silent

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      That’s like saying ‘communicating doesn’t do anything.’

      It’s just a tactic from bad actors to convince people they shouldn’t be fighting back.

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    Double fuck you to the crew on top of the scabbiness.

    “Y’all been out of work for months, have a gig that doesn’t cross a line. JUST KIDDING”

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      Pregress over perfection. Be glad they listened to the response and adjusted, otherwise they may as well have not bothered and gone ahead anyway.

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        Literally the only thing that makes Maher not a conservative in the US is that he’s anti-religon. In any other developed country, he’s comfortably a right wing conservative.

        Plus, regardless of political leanings, he’s an asshole.

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          I could never put my finger on why Bill Maher pissed me off so much and has such a small audience compared to other so-called “liberal” commentators - it’s because he’s an asshole that pisses off the left and right equally, but for entirely different reasons. Thanks.

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        He said that millennials complain too much and are always on the brink of a nervous breakdown and how boomers needed to be in charge. So I guess one crystal by itself even though sharp isn’t much of a threat. But when they are together is pretty dangerous like the cave of swords in Mexico.

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      Sometimes it is unavoidable unfortunately. Had to cross the picket line at the hospital where my grandma was dying.

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    I dunno, seems like all the shitty actors and writers are striking.

    Good thing, imo. The faster we can replace them with AI, the better.

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    Multimillionaires fighting with other multimillionaires isn’t exactly what I think of when I think of scab vs union.

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      Some quick math to put things into perspective:

      • 25,000 seconds = ~7 hours
      • 40,000 seconds = 11 hours
      • 75,000 seconds = ~21 hours
      • 100,000 seconds = ~1.2 days
      • 250,000 seconds = ~2.9 days
      • 500,000 seconds = ~5.8 days
      • 1,000,000 seconds = ~11.6 days
      • 5,000,000 seconds = 57.9 days
      • 10,000,000 seconds = 115.7 days
      • 100,000,000 seconds = 3.2 years
      • 1,000,000,000 seconds = 31.7 YEARS

      Like it or not, the multimillionaires are far closer to us than they are to billionaires. It’s not even close. Even at 100,000,000 you’re far closer to the everyday person.

      So yes, I consider a union of actors to be a union, even if the actors are making millions. Our common enemy is still the billionaires and corporations, who are wealthy beyond imagination.

      Besides, actors tend to be liberal and do a lot of philanthropy. It’s probably because with all their wealth, they still feel closer to the common person and remember their upbringing.

      Solidarity means all workers, even the ones who get paid too much. Don’t fall for the divisions that billionaires want to create.

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        It’s also important to remember that most actors aren’t multi-millionaires, only the famous ones are.

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          Yep. Actors who don’t have named roles probably aren’t making close to millions, maybe a couple hundred k at best. More likely less. Actors who’ve accumulated a reputation but are in things like TV shows or Netflix movies are closer to a few million. It’s why those actors, despite having popular acclaim, are still very down to earth.

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        Good point. Strangely most Hollywood actors - like doctors - belong to the working class based on their relation to the means of production (even most millionaire actors can’t afford their own production studios).

        However most of the ones we recognize do have hefty investment accounts, and so by that measure, they own means of (other) production and are not truly working class. Nonetheless the big cats are in an entirely different ballpark of power and wealth.

        I see no reason to complain when millionaires - who have infinitely more power than I - want to go to bat against the big baddies. In fact I encourage them to use their privilege and to put it on the line.

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          If anything, their wealth makes them incredibly powerful allies. They have influence and they’ve been able to take a closer look at the process. The actors striking gave the writers a much needed boost. It’s corny, but I saw a meme for Avengers Infinity War which portrayed the writers and the heroes struggling against the invasion in Wakanda, and then SAG leadership was Thor coming in and turning the tides. It’s obviously a joke, but I think it fits fairly well as an analogy. The Screen Actors Guild is a massive asset.

          The investment accounts are an interesting point though. With how it works, a lot of Americans technically own little bits and pieces of the means of production, but not enough to influence things. I’d argue the famous actors probably don’t have much influence either as investors, despite having a lot more invested.

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            I saw a meme for Avengers Infinity War which portrayed the writers and the heroes struggling against the invasion in Wakanda, and then SAG leadership was Thor coming in and turning the tides. It’s obviously a joke, but I think it fits fairly well as an analogy.

            Erm… I’m sorry, but my cultural literacy isn’t broad enough to understand what you mean here.

            However I can disagree with your second paragraph - it’s not influence that makes you working class or not, and in my experience those large accounts due have a strong influence through voting, IR, etc. I will also warn that when the millionaires on your side start to see their privilege erode, they will become eager to stab you in the back if it means preserving their comfort.

            Allies, yes, but not the kind that you would want to trust with your life. Don’t end up like the Black Guards.

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      The multimillionaires that are supporting the union don’t are doing so because either A) it’s the right thing to do, or B) because the studios may inadvertently trigger the destruction of Hollywood because of greed. Whether because of altruism or mutual self-interest, it’s the right thing to do.

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        Sure fine whatever but it is stretching the bloody terms. There is a world of differenxe between a near minimum wage sheet metal worker whose family is on food stamps and someone who makes more in a year than most Americans earn in a lifetime.

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          That assumes that all actors and screenwriters make more in a year than most in a lifetime. In reality they work from job to job, paycheck to paycheck. I know a few people who work in production in Hollywood. They tell me that working on a tv show used to mean steady employment, but now can mean just 4 weeks of work for writers and creative types.

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    The protest is meaningless. AI will eliminate most of these jobs and there’s nothing that can be done about it.

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    Calling people who are just trying to work and make a living “scabs” is dehumanizing language. Not surprising from the so-called tolerant left.

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        I’m hereby announcing that people who the left vilifies and dehumanizes with hurtful words like “scab” are always welcome to work at any of my businesses.

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            None of my businesses are about boot cleaning, but even if they were, it wouldn’t be me doing it, it would be my employees.

            Just so you know, the people you cruelly slander with such gross language as “scab” are actually some of the hardest workers. They don’t make absurd demands for more pay and luxurious pampered conditions, they just show up and do the work and take whatever they are given. The way it should be.

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                I live in a penthouse apartment and have quite a few vacation homes around the world, actually. If you need work I’m sure I could find a place somewhere for you to help out but you need to pledge that you will never join a union and never strike.