I’m a bit concerned about how much my husband has been watching his videos, but he’s a hard man to argue with. I want to understand what it is Joe Rogan is saying, but I don’t want to give the man my viewership. How/where do I get the info I can use to debate my husband?

  • ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca
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    11 months ago

    I get the sense that your concerns aren’t who your husband watches but what your husband’s opinions are.

    Instead of debating over what Rogan says, maybe just have a conversation with your husband about your concerns. Express your thoughts on issues important to you and see how that goes. Maybe your husband just likes the drama and doesn’t put much weight into Rogan’s hot takes.

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      11 months ago

      This is good advice! I listened to his podcast for a little because I was interested in a particular guest and I wanted to hear what the guess had to say, not what Rogan thought. I found a few other guests I liked but I quickly stopped listening because Rogan always makes interviews about his interests and it grew old.

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      11 months ago

      The real answer. Everyone is different, can’t really judge a person’s views by who they watch. I know people that watch a lot of Fox because they want to know what kind of crap they’re spreading.

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    10 months ago

    Johnny Harris has a good video: https://youtu.be/sLaXSvpfDZs?si=ckqeiEdfaknWnBeu

    But if you want to debate your husband on what he sees, you’re going to need to get a good idea of the guest. The problem with Joe Rogan is that Rogan does very little pushback as an interviewer.

    There was one interview that I watched with Mel Gibson touting a stem cell cure-all treatment being given out in Panama and making claims about it helping to cure anything. That treatment was beginning to undergo Phase 2 FDA trials, which basically meant they were studying to see if it would kill people, not what benefits the drug had.

    If you are going to debate, ask for a non-Rogan source to back him up. It will at least get your husband to start fact checking. And if your husband asks why you need a second source, you can tell him that Rogan describes himself as an idiot.

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    11 months ago

    Use https://piped.video to watch his content. It is a privacy respecting alternative front end for YouTube that will strip out ads and such so you don’t give your support to the content creator if you don’t want to. I use it to keep up with Trump stuff without fully supporting those who choose to host him.

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      11 months ago

      neat. i’m always vaguely curious about some of that stuff, but if you watch even 5 minutes of a video about Jordan Peterson you get spammed with OWN THE LIBS videos and nonsense for weeks. it’s to the point where i don’t even bother.

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        11 months ago

        Piped is the service for you then. I have noticed 0 change in the holy algorithm from the things I have watched on Piped, so that must mean that the privacy measures are working.

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      11 months ago

      Mmm but only his older stuff in on YT. He moved to Spotify before covid. Does Piped also scrap Spotify?

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    I’d just find the comedy special from many years ago where he told his audience that “I’m not an expert in anything except smoking weed. I’m a moron. I don’t know anything. Nobody should listen to me or take me seriously.”

    That bit on stage is the first thing I ever think of whenever his name is mentioned these days, since he didn’t even take his own God damn advice.

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      I’m pretty sure I’ve seen several different clips where he repeats the same “I’m a moron” spiel.

      While I have only watched what few clips came my way, I was under the impression that was the entire point of his podcast: Invite interesting* people, then validating them in discussion by agreeing to most of their takes regardless of how bizarre they are so that they freely speak of their topic.

      *wherein “interesting” is usually something from the categories of fringe beliefs (often conspiracies), drugs, culturally influential people, or experts on whatever is a big topic for his viewership at the time.

      Many of the experts are also those of the fringe belief kind.


      Basically, if you take Rogan’s views significantly more seriously than the beliefs of your local meth head, you are doing it wrong.

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    You can ask him to explain the episodes to you. It might help him reflect on the information and give you something to talk about.

    If he’s difficult to “debate” it might be that the format of your conversations are to blame. Sometimes arguing, especially by throwing “facts” and trying to prove someone that their views are wrong, just creates tension and pushback causing the opposite effect. There’s something called Street Epistemology that can help open the door to actual conversations and reflection, instead of antagonistic debating.

    https://streetepistemology.com/

    If that fails, there’s also the option for couples therapy if you feel like you’re not communicating.

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    11 months ago

    Watch it with him and discuss the video afterwards. No matter how many people sit in front of a screen, it counts as one view.

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      10 months ago

      This. Watching them yourself is really the only way to go. Anyone else you watch to get info on him is highly likely to be either biased towards or against him and will be giving you incorrect information.

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    11 months ago

    JR lost touch with reality a few years ago. Hosts nonsense guests on his show who spread BS. To debate him, you simply require a brain and any simple reasoning skills.

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    You can also read into some of the very easily disprovable professional morons that appear on show. Jordan Peterson is a great example because he’s obviously wrong in a very well researched area.

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      11 months ago

      When it comes to psychology, I think Peterson has a lot of valuable insights.

      When it comes to anything else I just wish he would shut his mouth.

      That combination of feelings really sums up a lot of Joe’s guests.

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    11 months ago

    Hey, pure coincidence , Johnny Harris from youtube recently put out an informative video on Joe a month ago:
    https://youtu.be/sLaXSvpfDZs?si=CPwiMtAEdhaWA3Jj

    His video is nuanced and informative, but I cannot say it is unbiased and it leaves with a very centrist conclusion, but this might be the best for someone unfamiliar with Joe.

    If I may add my own take on him, his show should be considered purely entertainment, and any semblance to actual discourse or debate is purely coincidental and done for entertainment. At best, it should encourage people to start forming their own ideas and opinions (without actually providing reliable resources where to start proper, sadly), and at worst it validates the unfounded opinions and hypotheses of those who believe their internet look-up and echo chamber chatter is equally reputable as peer-reviewed, documented, proper research.

    And lastly to alleviate any concerns you have, people who watch Joe simply yearn to be more knowledgeable, even if his show isnt a good chanel for it. Your partner may be able to understand your concerns with a good discussion and communication, so I wish you the best in talking to them and a prosperous outcome. Cheers!

  • Huxleywaswrite@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    As a man who works with a bunch of guys that listen to him, nothing worth listening to.

    That being said, I’m not married to the guys and work and your going to have way more to deal with in his viewership than I do.