President Joe Biden is arguing that “there is something dangerous happening in America” as he revives his warnings that Donald Trump and his allies represent an existential threat to the country’s democratic institutions.
“There is an extremist movement that does not share the basic beliefs of our democracy. The MAGA movement,” Biden says in excerpts of the speech Thursday in Arizona, released in advance by the White House, referring Trump’s Make America Great Again slogan.
Although voting in the 2024 Republican primary doesn’t begin for months, Biden’s focus reflects Trump’s status as the undisputed frontrunner for his party’s nomination despite facing four indictments, two of them related to his attempts to overturn Biden’s victory in the 2020 election.
He’s absolutely right. The GOP wants to abandon democracy and install Trump as a dictator. We are on a dangerous precipice.
"If conservatives become convinced that they cannot win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy.”—David Frum, Republican speech writer under W. Bush
This was not a warning. It was a threat.
It was a warning. Frum is and always has been a staunch never-Trumper. He’s still a conservative, but he was never on board with Trump and to his credit has been pretty vocal in his opposition.
Oh my god, it was a republican that said that? That makes that line scarier, because that means was probably said with the idea that abandoning democracy is a good thing.
I had not given my brain the space to imagine that Trump would be the choice of dictator. I guess there would never be a ‘good’ dictator candidate but damn that would be insane.
I would be a good dictator. I don’t crave fame, fortune, or control. I like to live a quite life, have general good will for people and am kind.
I have a very technical background, a decent understanding of, and more importantly a high respect for, science. My number one skill is probably troubleshooting complex systems.
I’m am secure enough in my knowledge and abilities that I have no problem admitting when I’m wrong, and enjoy and am not threatened by other people being right so I can learn something new.
I make a terrible manager, so I’d have to delegate the vast majority of the actual work to competent people.
Mostly I just want everyone treated fair and equal, to have access to basic needs, and the ability to better themselves.
I absolutely don’t want the job, nor do I think anyone should have it, but yeah, I think I’d make a good dictator.
Because you don’t want it, you won’t make it as a dictator. People don’t hold power because it’s easy.
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why would he do that? I genuinely am confused everytime this point is made.
we abandoned democracy a long time ago
Yes! Push this! They’re UnAmerican! Let everyone know!
destroying democracy and installing a nationalist dictator is actually very american
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dude what the fuck
Call me a squid again. That’ll fix it!
you are quite deranged
Raspberry.
Joe Biden is right about this. Republicans don’t believe in our democracy and they don’t want people who vote against them to be able to vote.
Joe really needs to actually take state action instead of talking about action lol
like just start arresting people, you did it to the BLM folks, why not against the literal fucking nazis
“Makes democracy a touchstone”
Wow man… It’s become this bad.
Not touchstone, touchtone! Beep boop beep
I think it’s important to note that Trump’s “extremist movement” is the mainstream GOP.
Yeah I saw a poll/survey that said voters found Biden to be “too liberal” and the GOP is just about the right amount of conservative.
The Overton Window in the US is so fucked up.
Yeah, targeting the MAGA crowd is not going to work. The Dems need an identity outside of “We aren’t Republicans”
Edit: That said, I must confess it is good to see they’re finally taking the Right seriously as a threat instead “ThEy WaNT WhAT’s BeSt fOr tHE NaTIon, wE JuSt NeEd A BeTTeR ComPrOmISE”
Fuck yeah I knew this Dark Brandon was coming. Going to be a long couple years.
And don’t forget Dark Brandon’s color changing dark roast mug with flashing laser eyes! It even donates to his campaign.
That is pretty sweet. I want one with real lasers.
Well the spineless Republican candidates jockying for the vice presidency aren’t going to say it.
I think this guy sucks, but he’s not wrong here. I’ll vote for him again because as shitty as he is, he’s not going to completely destroy our country and/or destabilize the entire world.
If Trump is elected, that guy is going to hand Ukraine to Putin, and sever ties between the US and the majority of our allies in Europe.
If Biden wants to fight extremism he could maybe make the alphabets do something about all the domestic terror threats.
Maybe by admitting it’s domestic terrorism to threaten to murder your milquetoast political opponents.
Damn I’m so trained by the talking points. When you said alphabets I thought you meant gay people. Like what am I supposed to do? 🤣
Look, I’m not saying we should draft a Queer Anti-Terror Squad to take the fight to the Christofascists, but I bet they’d be well motivated.
It’s ok, for a second I thought they meant Google
💀 lmao
I think this guy sucks, but he’s not wrong here. I’ll vote for him again because as shitty as he is, he’s not going to completely destroy our country and/or destabilize the entire world.
looking at the state of US foreign politics and the growing tensions with russia and china I think they’re already doing this. Biden will fight with russia and get us killed while trump will fight china and get us all killed.
Two sides, same coin, yada yada
I think you’re a moron.
We aren’t fighting Russia, and we won’t be fighting them anytime soon. They wont fight us because Ukraine has actually decimated their military in an absolutely hilarious manner . Russia is well aware that they will lose immediately if they escalate, so they won’t.
I’d be glad if we pissed off China, although nothing will happen in this regard either.
It’s no secret. They make no attempt to hide their scorn for democratic principles.*
For example mininizing the number of eligible citizens who vote, by intimidation, “technical issues”, restricting in person voting times, targetting early and mail-in voting to name only a few tactics.
Also compare their legislative priorities with what actual Americans want… almost nothing in common. They continue to push a radical Christofascist agenda and are actually willing to destroy the country if they can’t get their way.
Republicans are the party of cruelty and misanthropy now, that is their absolute worst failing.
*Not our “democracy” because it has never been a democracy, but I’ll give him a pass there since literally every American politician abuses the language and people aren’t educated enough to know the difference.
… about fucking time?
But all politicians are equally at fault for not leglislating to ensure workers have livable salaries and encouraging the “outsourcing” thing that moved jobs overseas so people could buy cheaper Walmart stuff.
the 90s and its consequences
Let’s go Joe! Hope my fellow Zoomers go out and vote.
The story of Joe Biden and his incredible perseverance, through hurdles and tragedies, is tremendously relatable to the common citizen. This man dusts himself off and charges headlong back into the fray after every setback. Lesser men would crumble, if faced with his challenges.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
President Joe Biden is arguing that “there is something dangerous happening in America” as he revives his warnings that Donald Trump and his allies represent an existential threat to the country’s democratic institutions.
The MAGA movement,” Biden says in excerpts of the speech Thursday in Arizona, released in advance by the White House, referring Trump’s Make America Great Again slogan.
Biden’s speech is his fourth in a series of presidential addresses on the topic, a cause that is a touchstone for him as he tries to remain in office even in the face of low approval ratings and widespread concern from voters about his age, 80.
In closed-door fundraisers, Biden has spoken at length about reelection, imploring supporters to join his effort to “literally save American democracy,” as he described it to wealthy donors this month in New York.
Republican state lawmakers used their subpoena power to obtain all the 2020 ballots and vote-counting machines from Maricopa County, then hired Trump supporters to conduct an unprecedented partisan review of the election.
The money comes from a $1.9 trillion COVID-19 relief package passed in the early months of Biden’s presidency, and the project is in partnership with the with the McCain Institute and Arizona State University.
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Extremism is born out of fear and desperation. And the number one driver of that is financial insecurity. I really wish he would say he was doing something about these fundamental issues: a liveable minimum wage, housing issues, education, and health care. He’s not wrong about these asshole insurrectionist Republicans, but pointing out that their thinking is anti-American and backwards doesn’t really get to the root of the issues.
Oh my god; someone still selling the ridiculous narrative that these white supremacist fascists are being white supremacist fascists because of “economic anxiety”
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/24/us/politics/trump-economic-anxiety.html
What they fear is losing the privileged status of white supremacy in America; what they’re desperate to stop is a more equal society. They didn’t march demanding more pay, better working conditions, or more upward mobility in Charlottesville, they marched chanting “Jews will not replace us” and “blood and soil.” They’ve been telling us, loudly, for years what it’s all really about and people still want to believe it’s about economics as if there weren’t dozens of very well-off people arrested for trying to attack Congress on January 6th.
It’s undeniable that more economic opportunity would shrink their pool of possible supporters, even if it would never eliminate that pool. We don’t have to stop every from being a white supremacist; we just need to stop them from coming up with the power to topple our government.
This reminds me of a good saying. The worst enemy of progress is doing nothing while waiting for a perfect solution. I agree with you.
Not having anyone doing hateful things would be better, but that’s a terrible reason to just let the problem grow.
. They didn’t march demanding more pay, better working conditions, or more upward mobility in Charlottesville, they marched chanting “Jews will not replace us” and “blood and soil.”
Yeah, because they’re fucking stupid and they don’t know why they have poor pay, poor working conditions, and no upward mobility. They literally believe it’s a conspiracy by Them to keep the white man down. They’re dummies.
But that doesn’t actually mean economic factors aren’t the primary motivator. There’s still an underlying, material problem.
“Extremism” Not just the fascists. If you can’t see the correlation between the shrinking middle class over the past 4-5 decades and the growth of extremism, I’m not sure what to say to that. These morons are anxious, and a lot of that is economic, and historically it doesn’t take much to point angry morons at the wrong target. Just define an “other” (Jews, Immigrants, LGBTQ) for them to focus on and they’ll run with it. I’m not excusing these assholes at all. But fighting the symptoms and not the disease is not a smart way to go about making change.
Also, for what its’ worth, I wanted to look at the article you posted, but I can’t get past the paywall.
Difference between discussing solutions to difficult problems and developing effective rhetoric to win a campaign.
If the Democrats were able to institute their full economic plan, there would be less financial insecurity. It wouldn’t be enough, but it would be a huge boon for less wealthy Americans. Most importantly, it would move the conversation about what’s acceptable policy more to the left.
its foolish to think our little people conversations have any effect of US economic policy. We don’t live in an economic democracy lol
Well you support a failed model of communism that deteriorated into counter revolutionary nationalism and capitalism, so your opinions on democracy mean less than nothing to me.
Nah dude, white supremacist extremism is born out of the fear of losing privilege.
Nothing will ever be done.
