China’s foreign minister said Saturday that Israel has gone too far in responding to last week’s invasion by Hamas, China’s official news agency reported.

Speaking to Saudi Arabian Foreign Minister Faisal bin Farhan Al Saud, Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi said Israel’s actions have extended beyond self-defense.

According to Xinhua, China has an interest in helping resolve the conflict and the underlying issues involving the Palestinian population.

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    10 months ago

    maybe the chinese can give them some tips, I heard they’re pretty experienced in handling minorities…

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    Because the Chinese government treats Muslims so well, right?

    I wonder what they would do if the Uyghurs revolted… oh wait, we do know, we have precedent, just look how they treated their students.

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    wow, says by the nation who abuses Filipino fishermen, claiming they own the entire West Philippine Sea

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      Pro-tip: If you’re pitching a Taiwanese company, saying “West Taiwan” is almost a guarantee of winning the business.

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      This is one of those things that is so set in people’s minds, I’d love to know what you actually imagine happening when you say it - like what you’re picturing.

      I’ve been giving friends pop quizes about Xinjiang when they bring it up, so far not found a single person who knows anything about any single part of it.

      It’s interesting because so many people claim to be deeply concerned about it but no one ever seems to have any real desire to learn about it, I’ve seen a million infographics this week about Palestines population and the history and everything but no one ever posts facts about the situation in China even though it’s mentioned endlessly in glib comments.

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    Yeah, Israel should only have gone as far as putting Palestinians into concentration/re-education camps with a healthy side-dose of black market organ trading and forcing Palestinian families to live with an Israeli supervisor, if CCP’s example is to be followed.

    At least China is making it clear where it is on the lines being drawn in the global geopolitics. What I don’t get is social media like YouTube still sucking up to them and censoring things like 1989 Tiananmen Square protests. It’s very easy to support Palestine against Israel, but what Palestinians really need is support that isn’t built up on bad faith (a.k.a. the people also supporting Hamas and their terrorist acts or countries that clearly don’t really give a sh-t in other circumstances). As it is and because a lot of it is being built on that bad faith, it’s allowing neozionists in Israel to get away with far more than they would normally be getting away with.

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      Gaza has basically been an open air concentration camp for 16 years.

      But the sheer balls on China to spout this rhetoric.

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    Here’s an idea? Let the Chinese government administer Gaza! They have experience reeducting Muslims right? Then all Gazaouis muslims will become Jewish, Christian, atheist, you name it! Possibilities are endless.

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    At the “start” of this, I didn’t really have an opinion. But that’s mostly due to lack of knowledge and the complexity of the issue.

    I was initially siding with Israel as they were hit first, but their response has made me rethink things.

    I’m still really undecided and am unqualified to make an opinion anyway.

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      “As they were hit firsr.”

      Whooboy. You have to go far, far, far back in history, buddy.

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        People were on TV news saying the Israelis are like Native Americans getting their land back 🤣🤣🤣

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      It’s OK not too have a side. Israel and Palestine have been going at it for so long and the history is so complex that there is literally blame on both sides.

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      The fact that you consider yourself unqualified to make an opinion probably makes you more qualified to do so than 95% of the idiots out there whose opinions are already firmly established.

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        The pressure is all over these comment sections. Not this one in particular.

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        Interesting thought, when you have countries sending aid to one side or the other, or protests pro one way or the other, makes you think you should have a side.

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      It’s really complicated. If you trace back why people did what they did, including motivations, you’ll end up centuries back. I stopped in the Russian revolutionary time period last time I tried.

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          Goes even further than that I suspect, but I’m not sure. I would seriously not be surprised though if you could trace it to the Romans in Jerusalem.

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            The Romans created the diaspora in the first place. How relevant that is to the modern conflict is debatable. Zionists certainly use the ancient Jewish kingdoms as evidence of their legitimacy.

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              I think it does trace that far back then. The diaspora is likely a large contributing factor in why Jews were so often persecuted in Europe, which was what created the desire for a Jewish state in the first place. And I do think that is a fair desire and claim, but the way the British did it was completely wrong.

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      I was initially siding with Israel as they were hit first, but their response has made me rethink things.

      To generalize this out to other wars and conflicts, even regular old arguments, there are almost always pre-existing conditions and tensions leading up to the first major attack. Even things like WWI, where the catalyst was the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand. But there is quite obviously more to the atmosphere, national ambitions, etc. etc. that make it so that the separatists wanted to assassinate him, and make it so that Austria-Hungary wanted to invade Serbia and used this as an excuse. A war would have happened anyway, no matter who attacked first.

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      Iarael’s response is to destroy the terrorist organizario that is responsible for all of this misery.

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          Israel didn’t bomb evacuation convoys, from what I know at least, it’s fake news.

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            I read the phrase “fake news” and my stomach immediately turns upside down.

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              Arguments, not proof, also unstated ones - we only see drawn conclusions. Israel didn’t confirm or accept blame, but I won’t deny it could’ve been a mistake or a moment of confusion. But that would still not be “attacking evacuation convoys”, but an isolated case, especially since, it seems according to the article that the designation of safe roads happened after the strike - though the timing is also not exact.

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                  If Israel wanted land why did it agree to several 2 state solutions (which palastinians declined)? Why did it exit Gaza?

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            There are videos, so which part is fake news?

            They even took the time to analyze shadow placement for time and location verification

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        History has proven time and time again that this is the worst possible way to do that. Israel is either stupid or is acting intentionally with another purpose.

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          I think this is unprecedented. Everything about this actually, not just Israel deciding to end Hamas… So I don’t know if history showed this before, I do know that previous attempts at pacifying Hamas - as opposed to ending it - did happen, and we definitely see now they achieved nothing…

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          Having seen what Hamas did, can you really deny they’re terrorists, on the same level as ISIS? Filming themselves, kidnapping teens, rape and torture, beheading babies… Parading half naked bodies in the streets to spit and cheer at.

          I want Netanyahu out of office. But he’s not running around doing that, don’t be ridiculous.

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    “Before the Hamas incursion and subsequent Israeli military response, it was believed that Israel and Saudi Arabia, driven by a common animus toward Iran, were working toward a normalization of relations, a development that could have shifted the dynamic in the Middle East.”

    Who wants the dynamic in the Middle East to remain unchanged?

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    The US calls out something bad and people point out the hypocrisy: “wHaTaBoUtIsM”

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    As long as Hamas still actively holds hostages its fair game.