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    There’s several Shakespeare plays involving cross-dressing. So basically they’re going to outlaw Shakespeare.

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      They already banned Shakespeare in several schools for being too sexual.

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        My freshman year of high school, my AP English teacher made sure to point out all the sexual stuff in Shakespeare, much to our chagrin.

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          My favorite things about Shakespeare as an English teacher was explaining the innuendos and explaining how Romeo and Juliet was absolutely not a love story lol

          I had a young woman who was a freshman yell at me, crying, that Romeo and Juliet was the greatest love story of all time and it was adorable.

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            I feel like some of that comes down to… Well, us, the adults. For some ungodly reason, we’ve been calling it things like “a love story” and “a tragedy,” and now people just don’t know what to expect.

            We’ve also somewhat sanitized it. The pop-culture focus on it tends to be the lengths they go to in order to be together, or the families coming together at the end; but we tend to ignore that the couple is just trying to be together to bone, it’s full of dick jokes, and at the end they basically get cockblocked so hard that they die.

            Actually, now that I think of it, Kenneth Branaugh is great and all, but I’d love to see a Seth Rogen adaptation of this one.

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            It’s sort of a love story, but it’s obviously a tragic love story. I’m not sure I’d use the word “adorable” but it could certainly be touching, especially to a teen girl.

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            It may not be a real love story, but Romeo and Juliet definitely go to bone town. And it was played by two men when Shakespeare wrote it.

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      Republicans see no issue with banning Shakespeare and any other expression of art

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        The only book you need is the Bible and the only art is the CROSS. If you have time for entertainment you have time to work and if you’re a kid, go see your local pastor for “work”

        – them, most likely

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      Republicans only care about Shakespeare, beethoven, and other such classical plays and music when they can use it as a dog whistle in order to imply an inherent criminality to Black Culture

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      And then they’ll turn around and ban all of the ones that don’t involve cross-dressing because in Shakespeare’s time the female parts were all played by men.

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    The longer the Americans focus their attention to the culture war, the less likely they pay attention to economic issues.

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      Same tactics the Tories are using in the UK now, their deputy chairman has even admitted their record is so poor, the culture war is all they have left.

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          Both sides demonize each other. Both sides pay the large part of their attention span to the culture war and hate each other for it.

          US politics is 2 parties on paper, but in reality, it is a 1 party state with the purpose of dividing the common people by groups so that they are weak against the ruling class.

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        Only one party has to pull this shit to drag everyone down. You can’t just ignore dehumanization of LGBT people and continue to talk about the economy.

        It reminds me a bit of comic book superheroes. The nature of Good means the hero needs to watch out for everyone, and prioritize protecting people and saving lives. If forced to choose between saving a bystander and the crippling the villain, they pick the bystander. On the other hand, Evil doesn’t give a shit. Villains aren’t usually bothered by morality or collateral, especially if the ends justify the means.

        I know it’s a cartoonish viewpoint on the topic, but I think it’s applicable. We can’t ignore persecution of minorities, even when it’s very obviously an astroturfed cultural issue. Economic policy changes may help a greater number of people overall, but we can’t achieve that at the cost of the bystander in danger.

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      Ding ding ding!

      This is the answer right here. Conservative politicians don’t give a shit about any of this but as per usual they found het another irrelevant issue that they can use to rile ou their constituents to ensure the sheep folk votes for them and against their own interests.

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      Economy is gone, look at the cumulated inflation over the last few years. And depleting Treasury.

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    Don’t let Republicans pretend they care about children while allowing them to get slaughtered in the classroom and raped at bible camp and forcing them to give birth,

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      allowing them to get slaughtered in the classroom and raped at bible camp and forcing them to give birth,

      while restricting the books they can read.

      First things first.

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      They don’t give a shit about children.

      They care about people voting for them (and with that, against their own interests) and the only way to get that done is to rile these people up with irrelevant issues like drag queens. Why do you think fox news all of the sudden jumps on top of issues like this?

      If people have nothing to freak out about they might look at real issues and notice that the conservative parties are working hard to thing their lives. Can’t have that, so let’s ruin the lives of others too by demonizing them. In the past it was the gays, this time it’s the drag queens because let’s face it: easy target and gays are acceptable now. Colored people and people with “funny” languages are also always a popular target for this bullshit.

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      Don’t let Republicans pretend they care about children while allowing them to get slaughtered in the classroom

      Disarming the working class will hurt those kids more in the long run than the risk of a school shooting.

      Strict gun control would be much more palatable if the police were demilitarized first, but the most vocal gun control advocates don’t talk about that.

      They might want “a discussion about racial sensitivity” or some other ineffective method of reforming the police, but never want to talk about power, class, and institutionalized violence in a meaningful way.

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    This feels so stupid. There are people out there that really want to ban such shows? It’s an art like any other. What’s next, ban street mimes? Make improv ilegal?

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      It’s part of the Republicans’ strategy to stir up trans panic and use it as a wedge issue. Drag is only tangentially connected to trans people but their voters don’t know that.

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        In the UK, it’s still traditional for a bloke to play a female character comedicly in Pantomimes each Christmas.

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          Imagine even suggesting drag be banned in the UK. Even the church would be saying, “what about Widow Twankey?!”

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            I mean, wankers like Lawrence Fox and Calvin Robinson are trying to push all this stuff in the UK, but it doesn’t seem to be picking up as much steam as in the US.

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              *reads up on Fox *

              What an asshole! Hilarious though that he ran for mayor and, in spite of having the name recognition of being an actor from a prominent family, he didn’t even get enough votes for his deposit to be refunded 🤣

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      Who is banning such shows? Nay, why, let’s all also make lap dances and pole dancing available to kids in school. Sure they are art forms and first amendment applies there too. /s

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        Lap dances and pole dancing are not the same as a drag show, but while we are on the topic. You cool with me whipping Jesus in public, then nailing him to a fake cross with fake blood running down his face?

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          The topic was first amendment. Stay in context. Either acknowledge that it’s not a good argument, or accept that they are “the same as drag show” within that context.

          Not even sure what the Jesus thing is about, but I suppose everything is being allowed under the pretext of first amendment so why not. It sounds like an enactment which is a - what did people call it - an “art form”.

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      Not ban, just make sure if you have adult content only adults can attend. Simple as that

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      There’s a fantastic picture out there of British troops manning a gun emplacement in dresses as the alert went up during their show.

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      They used to do drag shows in WW2 during downtime from killing Nazis

      You’re not trying to get republicans on board like that, are you?

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    Imagine getting your knickers in a knot over a creative performance no one is forcing you to attend and is harming no one. I’d love a drag queen reading me the Little Engine that Could or whatever (not a child, dont have a child, don’t know kids books these days)

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    I know of a judge who would be happy to disagree… once he’s back from his 5th vacation trip this month.

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            Maybe, but even if so, the Venn diagram of the kind of person who’d want to have anything to do with him and the kind of person who thinks minorities should have rights is just two circles.

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    I find the whole concept of drag queen story hour confusing. Drag is this kind of specific performance art that seems like it is custom tailored for stage performance, so doing drag queen story hour seems as random as doing “the cast of the broadway musical cats!” story hour or something like that. What’s the idea behind putting drag queens + story hour together at all?

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      It teaches children about acceptance and that they can be anything they want. Some children find it a calming environment to learn social skills because of dress up

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      Well, it started with libraries not having people volunteering to read to kids. And then adults who did read to kids wanted to make it fun and engaging for them, so they began dressing up in fantasy outfits and effectively cosplay. And then the gay community heard of it and likely just naturally fell into it. Some gay people grt very very excited about dressing up, doing theatrics, and drag.

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        Really?? Huh, well there you go. I’ll switch my status from ‘indifference’ to ‘supporting.’ No one ever took me to the library to have books read to me.

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          That’s really sad. I have treasured memories of going to the library and having one of the librarians read a picture book. I took my daughter to the library for the same reason when she was little.

          That’s just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to libraries these days, by the way. My wife is a library administrator. This town has less than 80,000 people, but the library has three 3D printers 100% free for use, take-home kits of things like a ukulele with an instruction book, an HTC Vive and a PS5 for teens to play with any time they want, and they’re building a new branch that includes a room (one person at a time with a lockable door) with a free washer/dryer and a shower!

          Support your local library. Go there. Have fun. Buy something at the book sale to throw them a few bucks.

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            Our library is awesome in that way too. They have 3d printers as well, and they invest a lot in online resources as also. LinkedIn learning, Rosetta stone, O’Reilly’s entire learning catalog, and a ton more, all free with a library card. AND they have a lot of good services for the homeless as well. I actually sent my city councilwoman a letter asking to increase funding to the library.

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            Ours is arguably too good about being online. I haven’t been there since before COViD, but read library books on my Kindle all the time

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              Yep. Libraries have ebooks for free. And audiobooks. My wife hasn’t paid for either in years. I only have once because there was no other way to get a specific BBC radio drama I wanted.

              Some libraries even have streaming movies!

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        That’s pretty interesting! Do you know of any good articles that trace the history going that far back? Seems like it would be a good read.

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      The same as an astronaut reading a book about space or a mechanic one about cars rather then a nurse reading a book about ancient archeology. They know what they’re talking about when someone asks a question when they read a book about gender or body dismorphia etc.

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      I find the comparison to clowns quite helpful, as they fill a weirdly similar niche – in most cases a performance art with clearly defined tropes, based on exaggerated makeup, carefully choreographed routines, while retaining an ability to improvise with a crowd, and of course some people have an irrational fear of them. From that perspective, it makes perfect sense to have them do the reading for kids. The makeup turns them into a cartoon character that kids find exciting; the practice with improv means children, who aren’t always the best listeners, can be managed without harshing the vibe; and their general stage experience and presence helps them retain that tough crowd to get them to listen to the story.

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      I can definitely see it. When I read to my kids when they were little, I’d at least do the voices and sound effects. However I would never do that in front of people I don’t know, let alone an audience. But I can see putting on a persona would help me drop that inhibition. Maybe that persona is represented by a funny hat or vest or glasses or something, or I can see drag being similar

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      Yeah that’s where I fall as well. I’m not inherently opposed to it, it just seems like a wierd thing to exist.

      Apparently 10 people think we’re transphobic wrong word, uh… dragphobic? for having this opinion too.

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        I think both drag performers and Broadway actors have the perfect skill set for reading books to kids. It’s like the difference between reading the lyrics to a song and hearing a musician sing it, regardless of whether they’re a country singer or an opera singer or a movie music composer. An actor, whether Broadway or not, would know exactly when to pause to create dramatic tension, be able to give characters their own unique voices or personalities, etc. And the fantastical, exaggerated costumes of drag I imagine just make it all the more exciting for the kids.

        As for how drag performers reading books to kids started, I have no idea, but somebody else said it started from people volunteering to read books to kids at local libraries, and the LGBT community got into helping out in that way, which led to drag performers doing it. And that makes sense to me. The LGBT community seems to be heavily made up of people who want to support their communities. Probably because they’ve often had to band together and create their own.

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    I care much less about the trans position on this as much as I see SB12 affecting things like strip clubs or onlyfans

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      Yes, hopefully it would also affect those. If some people think that law could be narrowly used to oppress/repress drag performers, maybe they’ll change their mind after they see it applied consistently and it affects them.

      Or I don’t know, maybe overall sexual repression is intended

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    The fuck they are not hahahhahah. Me showing my dick to small kids is protected by the 1st amedment hahahhaha lol

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      It might be worth checking out these drag shows rather than just basing your fears off of what appears to be a deep seated fantasy for you (how disturbung that it involved someone exposing their genitals to children?).