I’m not american and I’m glad I’m not but intended if someone could enter a bunch of zero width spaces
C programmers would ask whether a null-terminated name would be acceptable
Little Bobby Tables
Once I was tasked with doing QA testing for an app which was planned to initially go live in the states of Georgia and Tenessee. One of the required fields was the user’s legal name. I therefore looked up the laws on baby names in those two states.
Georgia has simple rules where a child’s forename must be a sequence of the 26 regular Latin letters.
Tenessee seemed to only require that a child’s name was writable under stone writing system, which would imply any unicode code point is permissible.
At the time, I logged a bug that a hypothetical user born in Tenessee with a name consisting of a single emoji couldn’t enter their legal name. I reckon it would also be legal to call a Tenessee baby 'John '.
im sure the devs tasked at fixing that bug loved u ;-)
Sounds like you did a thorough job as a QA tester. As a software engineer, I love to see it.
why settle for \n when you can go for the stylish carriage return
so
John\r Doe? depending on the software, when it gets printed, the carriage return will moves the cursor to the start of the line without moving a line down, becoming\x20Doe.¿Porqué no los dos? A nice \r\n, Windows style.
Gotta band it Windows tho, it just feels right, I want to enjoy my fake typewriter
No, cause “John\nDoe” messes up my regex. Sorry, out of the question.
no one is “good” with regex.
Then who’s coming up with all the bits that I copy/paste off the internet? The regex dragon?
Be funny as fuck if Canada started extradition procedures when he landed
Na, names are about pronunciation (how you call someone). Written letters are an approximation of that. You can’t pronounce a newline, so there’s that.
Just pronounce \n as a glottal stop.
But differently spelled names are legally distinct.
i think they mean that pronounciation matters for determing validity, not for the actual record or distinguishing between names
But something has to be written on the birth certificate and social security card, and that’s what everything else will expect you to use. I think just due to technical limitations (e.g. of the printer/template for those things) it wouldn’t be allowed, but I dunno about legally
John
(long pause)
Doe
Can I kill someone who wants to do this? How do I legally get away with it?
Plead permanent sanity. If I was the judge I would let you go.
Plead permanent sanity.
temporary sanity is the best I can manage these days.
Thanks bro
I gotchu
Good luck with that.
Most computer nayetems will trim the crap out of that name, the white spaces like space, tab, \r and \n will be gone by the time it’s in the database
A line break is a non-printable character. So it would only work in the scope of electronic storage. The minute it hits other media, the line break character is subject to how that media handles its presence, and then it is lost permanently from that step forward.
Plus, many input forms make use of validation that will just trim anything that isn’t a character or number, removing the line break character.
As someone with a very mildly unusual name, I can tell you that it doesn’t matter whether a system could or could not meaningfully represent the name. Often the people or systems just refuse to acknowledge any deviation from what’s expected. Sometimes databases are written to enforce arbitrary grammatical rules that make my name impossible to write, or the people using the systems will just “correct” the “error” without telling me. I don’t mind that much but our normative systems just love to homogenise us.
Because sadly we live in a society, and normal names are required for the functioning of society.
No they’re not. They’re required for us to be catalogued and managed by a state, to our detriment and the enrichment of the ruling class.
“Normality” is a fucking scam that keeps your imagination in check, so you never look outside your assigned box and realise you don’t have to belong to anyone.
You have no idea how much genocidal violence has been done to condition our society to accept a dystopic phrase like “normal names are required for the functioning of society”.
Your mind has been caged.
You’re right.
I just want to say that my last name is three syllables and spelled exactly how it sounds. In fact it’s two common english words stuck together. It was Americanized/Anglicized from Germany.
Three syllables will break brains on people here. I state it clearly. They’re like haha what?
For the last 9 years I’ve just been handing over my work ID badge so they can type it.
I probably said it too dramatically, the kinds of people that need to hear it will just knee-jerk dismiss me, but seriously think about the phrase “normal names are required for the functioning of society”. What a wild-ass thing to say. Required why? Is society really that fragile? Sounds like maybe it should be replaced by something that can handle the occasional mildly spicy letter. Mine isn’t even that spicy, it’s like whole-egg-mayo levels of spice.
It’s hard to believe but it’s just a couple people being shitty. Many probably agree sadly, but damn, get with it people !
I understand all the crashes database, Bobby Tables arguments. But shit, just update your system to accept Unicode and we’ll live happily ever after. At least my child 🍆💦ヾ(⌐■_■)ノ♪ will be finally recognized. 🤙
That’s a beautiful name.
A line break doesnt have to be electronic only. You just… start a new line on the paper.
If it were somehow legally allowed, the sanitization would be incorrect.
Sibling of Bobby Drop Tables
Y’all need to learn how to sanitize your inputs!
Not legal in Sweden. Our “IRS” must also accept the name and deem it legal.
I for one like this. As it stops some very stupid people to name their children some very stupid names. Such as “Adolf Hitler”.
And yes. Someone did try to name their child this and they were appropriately stoped from doing it.
ugh literally 1984
Should have went with Adolf Olivernipples
If only Sweden invaded the rest of the world instead of Russia… *le sigh*
I accept our new Scandinavian overlords. But I would rather have it be Finland.
Akchtually, Finland is not a Scandinavian country properly.
Fuck that, we think it is in the US. And we’re the only people who matter on the internet.
Eh, if they went imperial they would be subject to imperial needs leading to all the usual imperial problems.
What, inconsistent units? /s
John doe is invaild syntax.
It just be
(John \doe);
Not legal in Canada. Your legal name must use Latin characters only. This is a sore point for indigenous people.
Which is both entirely understandable, and also tragic because Canada’s indigenous written characters are so cool. :D
But also, it’s gotta be neat having a name among your people, that “the state” has nothing to do with…
Hello my name is JohnDoe. My name only contains Latin characters, no spaces allowed.
Ah, but you see, “John” and “Doe” are two names - first and last - and when you say “My name is”, you’re really listing out your names, with spaces inbetween!
But then there’s hyphenated names, and I have no idea how those are treated.
"John Doe"vs["John", "Doe"]vs{"firstName":"John", "lastName":"Doe"}console.log(Object.values(name).join("\n"));
The Romans also had spaces in between words
I was under the impression that that was actually a medieval invention
What was used to delineate words before the space character, then?
Nothing but understanding of words and sentences. It was kind of a whole thing. The space character was revolutionary to increasing the spread of literacy. Relevant
But did they have lowercase?
EDIT: Hello my name is JOHN DOE. Only latin characters allowed
But did they have
lowercaseenglish language?Salve! John Doe nomen meum est.
Only latin
charactersallowed(That’s all the latin I remember from school back then)
Did the Romans not use line breaks?
No, they didn’t even use the space to separate words. Take a look at any Roman inscription in Italy, there are no spaces between the words (just like there are no silent pauses between spoken words).
Blank spaces arent characters by definition as they’re the space that allows the letters to exist
Deep. Is Python a form of Jazz?
Yes, and YAML is a war crime.
