• frog_brawler@lemmy.world
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    6 days ago

    Glorifying violence is A-Ok when the government awards people the Medal of Honor.

    Reddit needs to come up with a more accurate excuse for their censorship.

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      Their excuse is monnney. Look at Twitter, people are pulling their ads because they are not happy with what’s happening there. Keep the people who give you money happy and everything is fine. No matter if you would have to sell your soul (like Disney in China, to not get banned and miss millions of subscribers). Since the ad companies usually are big corporate, you can imagine what reddit their stance is.

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    i would argue no, but then again, there’s a difference between posting it, and supporting it.

    glorifying and supporting violence is almost always against the rules on any platform anywhere. So.

  • peregrin5@lemm.ee
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    7 days ago

    Hi I’m new to Lemmy since Reddit decided to permaban me due to support I showed for Luigi. Good riddance to be honest. I should have fully quit when they shut down Apollo but didn’t know Lemmy existed.

    • UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml
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      6 days ago

      Just keep in mind that if you are not satisfied with how your particular insrance is running, you don’t have to stop using lemmy like you did with reddit. You can switch to a different instance and keep on chilling!

      No more switching services! Gotta love this place.

      • PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world
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        To expand on this: You can migrate accounts fairly easily. You can export your subscribed communities, and import them into your new account. So the only real thing you’re losing is your post history, but even that is seen as a bonus by many users who are looking to burn their old account.

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          Additionally, some instances disable up/downvotes as well so you don’t even need to worry about internet points if you don’t want to.

          It’s worth looking around and finding a few instances you like and checking them out. Some tend to have their old local culture which is kind of neat.

  • kava@lemmy.world
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    I think federal government probably sent a pretty please over to reddit HQ to censor this.

    They’re afraid of it fomenting further dissent. It’s a delicate situation when the plebs are upset. A little bit is OK, in fact preferable. But too much can lead to a chain reaction that cannot be controlled.

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    7 days ago

    Why would it be? The only actual reference to violence is the fact that it happened (“[…] faced it with such brutal honesty.”) and the reasoning behind it.

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    Reddit said so because it’s CEO is known to be a greedy bastard who threw everything and everyone Bunder the bus for money. Luigi would not approve

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      There are like 50 sentences of basic reality in there, but I suspect that a lot of the moderation challenge comes from one small phrase dropped into the middle: “it had to be done.”

      With the inclusion of that, the 50 sentences of reality are recast as not just true but a valid justification for murder, even an argument that it was a duty, and that’s the rub.

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        I appreciate how quick a read is it. Much more likely for random people to read it and start thinking and then you can jump out of the bushes and go “surprise, you just read a manifesto!

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        I mean, he claims responsibility, confirmed the existing evidence, then states his motives which aren’t hard to understand for even those out of the loop. I think the brevity and simple reasoning speak volumes louder than some maniacs scribblings found in a cabin. The fact that even those considered Semliterate would be able to grasp the bulk of his message was likely intentional.

        Its actually not shitty at all, presuming his purpose was to inspire a shift in public discourse around the topic.

        If he wanted it to be the centerpiece of a dramatic documentary miniseries, then yes, it was shitty.

    • rumba@lemmy.zip
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      They didn’t ban it because it was dangerous or violent, They banned it because the anti-corporate and spez is a musk wanna be

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        Thiel is one of reddits earliest investors. spez is a Thiel boy.

        This whole time I can’t believe how reddit managed to hold up a facade of being a cool progressive college student platform. They pulled the wool over everyone’s eyes. It’s as if they put lipstick on /pol/ and /b/. And everyone was like, alright a hip liberal platform. Sure if you ignore the iceberg of right wing bootlicking shit beneath the surface of the default subreddits.

    • anarchrist@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Is anyone with a pulse still on reedit? All I ever see there are AIO/AITA/best of creative writing exercises that reek of ChatGPT

      • rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works
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        I’m there for a couple of videogames and the homelab/selfhosted stuff. Curated subreddits are still active and real.

      • pycorax@lemmy.world
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        Some communities just don’t really have an equivalent elsewhere but I’m purely only lurking now. Don’t comment anymore, use a modded third party client on mobile and ublock origin on desktop.

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        Reddit was full of false outrage and fake stories long before GPT ever existed. Just the last few people that were willing to post have kind of wandered off. I think we got the best of them here

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        On the odd occasion I go to reddit front page, AITA is always at the top with an obviously AI generated ridiculous story.

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          Title: AITAH for calling out my [Friend/Husband/Wife/Mom/Dad/Son/Daughter/X-In-Law] after [He/She] did [Undeniably something outrageous that anyone with an IQ above 80 should know its unacceptable to do]?

          Body of post:

          [5-15 paragraph infodumping that no sane person would read]

          I told my friend this and they said I’m an asshole. AITAH?

          Comments:

          Comment 1: NTA, you are abosolutely right, you should [Divorce/Go No-Contact/Disown/Unfriend, the person] IMMEDIATELY. Don’t walk away, RUNNN!!!

          Comment 2: NTA, call the police! That’s totally unacceptable!

          And sometimes you get someone calling out OP… 3: Wait, didn’t OP also claim to be [Totally different age and gender and race] a few months ago? Heres the post: [Link]


          🙄 C’mon, who even think any of this is real…

  • ERROR: Earth.exe has crashed@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Yes it is. So what. The rich glorifies violence against the poor.

    The leader of the country once said: “When the looting starts, the shooting starts”

    So if its apparantly okay to use violence against alledged thieves (which is not okay btw, stealing should never equate a death sentence), then it must be okay to use violence against mass murderer CEOs.

    “When the denying starts, the deposing starts” would be my rebuttal to that phase the ex-president said. Violence begets violence.

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      When the looting starts, the shooting starts

      That was some fascist cop in Miami in the 60’s. Not the leader of any country.

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      So if its apparantly okay to use violence against alledged thieves (which is not okay btw, stealing should never equate a death sentence), then it must be okay to use violence against mass murderer CEOs.

      The reason violence against “looters” is permitted stems from their violation of the principles of the American caste system

      Contrary to popular belief, you are not allowed to pull yourself up by your own bootstraps. You are only allowed to help yourself when you’ve received lending permission from a state recognized philanthropic sponsor. Otherwise, you are supposed to quietly drown in your own filth, where it isn’t inconvenient for anyone higher on the totem pole than you.

      The caste system is sacred. Brian Thompson earned his position. Luigi Mangione deserved his miserable fate.

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        I like that you put “looters” in quotes. After hurricane Katrina, the news would show “looters” and “people trying to survive,” taking food items from grocery stores. I wonder what the difference was?

        the difference

        Skin hue

        Yes, people were also taking electronics, but for food?

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          Yes, people were also taking electronics, but for food?

          I believe there were a number of people accused of robbing stories when they were actually evacuating them from rising floodwaters. But, again, that boiled down to skin tone.

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      You get points for honesty, at least. Most people in here don’t even admit this is a call for violence.

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        It certainly doesn’t state it explicitly. It just says that the killer was the “first to face it” that way that implies that there is a possibility for more but the way I understood it was that current measures being taken aren’t enough, that doesn’t mean that other people wanting to take action should do so violently.

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      most CEOs don’t murder, even the health insurance ones simply are committing theft analogs, simply not funding healthcare, not preventing those than can independently afford it from accessing it.

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      Yeah they keep calling him radicalized. I just keep thinking this is a normal reaction and that corporate America and its shills are the radical ones.

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        I’ve read the manifesto. I have the same thoughts as you. I wonder with all these people calling him radical if maybe there’s a fake manifesto out there. Something created JUST to make him sound crazy? That would explain the wildly different views of him being radical.

        Remember, one month ago, the shooting hadn’t happened yet. Nobody knew Luigis name or face. So if you go from not knowing he exists, to seeing him murder a guy, and then get told he has plans for domination, and kill all the people…it would be logical to understand why someone would call that perspective radicalized.

        That’s not what he is, or what he wrote, but if you read a fake manifesto, believed it to be real, that would explain people saying that.

        Otherwise, I’m confused where “radicalized” comes from.

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          At first there were a lot of things floating around with people claiming to somehow have gotta access. Lot of sick fucks out there want to push an agenda.

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        “Would you shoot literal hitler in the back?” “Fuck yeah, bud” “Who radicalized you, everything that man did was legal”

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          Hey, hey, let’s not bring the H man into this. It’s not like the US is rounding up immigrants into concentration camps and making them work to pay off their deportation fees so that the US can have its slave labor without being dependent on China because we are at war over Taiwan……