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*fap* *fap* ibid. ibid.
Complete the damn degree and then do what you want. At least your have a document to help you if the shit hits the fan.
She can do whatever she wants with that kind of money in the bank. Continuing her degree later wouldn’t be a problem.
That’s her only fan too
TBH, I don’t blame her in the least. It’s hard enough for men. I can’t imagine what it must be like for women to endure misogyny on top of what men go through in STEM.
Hope she makes enough before her looks drop off.
You’re only a young hot piece of ass for so long.
Then what?
Under capitalism everybody’s gotta horde money while their bodies can still serve.
Stocks, I guess.
Sounds like a winning business strategy. I can’t see how this could ever go wrong.
Picking shitty stocks would be the place, I guess. I hope she finds a good accountant, bless her.
A PHD maybe?
Ya? It’s that easy to just get into a phd program huh?
She dropped out of her doctorate. She’s going to have to explain why she dropped out if she wants any chance to get back in and that is already pretty low after dropping out.
“I dropped out to make money, and now I have money, and now I want to complete my PhD.”
Easy enough explanation.
It doesn’t work that way. You can’t just come back to a phd program after leaving it. It’s not like undergrad.
Yes, you can. I’ve welcomed 3 doctoral program folks back just this past semester.
Did they have an approved leave of absence with a planned return or did they just fall off the side of the planet and then later just show up?
It’s rare to find a school that would entertain such a thing. I doubt that is the case with those people you’re talking about.
Without a leave of absence you’ll likely need to reapply and get new letters of recommendation , etc. Your chances at that point are pretty low.
No, they withdrew, one about a decade ago, and then re-applied.
Its not nearly as hard as you are making it out to be.
Not much different than a new applicant, except we know they know how to be a doctoral program member, and do things like be an intern, or RA.
She didn’t really “drop out”. She left for a much much much better opportunity. That’s a strong sign of intelligence.
Dropping out is dropping out. The reason doesn’t matter in that context.
She already made a million. Give her two more years and she’ll make more than an average scientist in their whole career. Then she can still get a PhD.
But she won’t. She’ll waste her money and end up with nothing.
Interesting. Didn’t know you knew her so well. Are you her best friend? Close family? Or how do you get so much insight into her psyche?
Nostradamus over here, lol! 🔮
What will she be doing 2 months from now? Rolling in the $ while you get mad that someone figured out a way to make an easier living?
As long as she’s careful with it, she’ll be fine. A lot of people who have sudden income windfalls don’t know how to be smart with it and end up losing everything, but as she’s pursued higher education, she’s a lot more likely to be financially literate than someone who regularly plays the lottery.
If she invests wisely, she could be set for life.
Translation: I threw away my ethics in favor of getting rich.
As opposed to… checks notes … the rest of the world?
Are you implying that creating porn is unethical?
When the majority of them hide their face it makes you wonder huh?
It makes me wonder what kind of horrible things they’ve experienced from men.
Sure sounds like it. 1950s ass take.
Are you implying that there are ethical ways to get rich?
If you’ve got it, flaunt it.
I hope she manages to set up an irrevocable trust that guarantees steady income for the rest of her life so someday she can quit sex work and just pursue art or something if she wants
Hell, maybe it’ll turn out that sex work is her art and that is ok too
Sex work is performance art.
Good for her but I can’t help but feel envious that paths and choices like this are basically exclusively only available to the opposite sex
it isn’t. there’s a lot of male OF models too, although their fans are probably mostly gay men. good news is, unlike performers from before online videos took off, you don’t really have to be “gay for pay”. OF models can get away with doing solo work as well.
you could argue that men have similar exclusive, lucrative paths that use their strength/athleticism and are also probably statistically similar rates of exclusivity within their sex. Like, not everyone will be a professional footballer just like not every onlyfans model makes livable income.
Not to mention, it’s definitely possible for men to have successful careers in sex work. I expect there are far fewer successful men in sex work, and they probably need to be ok with having a mostly male clientele. But it’s still possible.
The mean earnings for OF is $150/month. Meaning it’s likely there’s a vast majority of people earning $50-100/month, and a vast minority earning $100k/month.
With props, camera, lighting, editing “costuming” etc, you probably lose money doing it.
Blame that on men being the only people willing to pay for it.
That said there’s plenty of gay men out there willing to buy pictures of your ding dong if it’s photogenic enough.
But my Puritan beliefs are more important than her well being!!!
/s
I’ve done cursory research on this person, and my understanding is that she claims she will still be teaching science but only wearing sexy tops on. I don’t know how truthful that is but even some Olympic athletes said they are in Only fans but “only being sexy without showing”, in order to supplement their income. I don’t really fault people for this considering the worsening cost of living crisis.
The problem with sex work under capitalism isn’t the worker, but the capitalism.
This times several billion
Minus the “sex” part of “sex work under capitalism”
Sex work is real work. When we sufficiently progress as a species the concept itself will become incomprehensible because survival sex will become incomprehensible.
I just mean that the problem with all work under capitalism is the capitalism part.
What was the problem with it under feudalism?
The feudalism…
I hope she’s saving for retirement. How does she expect to make money when she gets older and the OnlyFans crowd no longer wants to masturbate to her videos?
Lol having a PhD doesn’t get you a pension. She’ll make more from OF than she’d ever make by staying in academia.
So much this. PhD just means you are earning significantly less than your peers for at least six years, and then if you stay in academia, it’s less your whole life. There are some nice perks though, but for purely monetary reasons, you do not go for a PhD.
Yeah basically the only PhD that pays is AI research if it can get you a job at OpenAI.
But better hurry before we move on to the next fad!
You say that like she was going to make a fortune in academia.
She’s dropped out of a doctorate which means she likely already has more qualifications than you and I combined.
There’s a difference between making a fortune and just having a steady pay check.
The issue is when she is old and used up the income dries up completely.
So whatever “fortune” she makes from this better carry her for the rest of her life because that tap WILL dry out.
Or, you know she could get another job and build a retirement fund through that.
I guess but who is going to hire someone that’s been out of work for years?
Trying to explain to some hiring manager that you took several years off to show your genitals online is a pretty bad place to be.
when she is old and used up
Downvoted for blatant misogyny
If she’s not a complete idiot, she probably already has more retirement savings than the average gen-xer. Assuming the pyramid scheme that is our stock market keeps growing, she might have already saved all she needs to. If the bubble collapses, she will just be living in a mad max apocalypse with the rest of us.
Bro what
OnlyFans has a reputation for people exploiting their looks. OnlyFans users have a reputation for judging people based on their looks. As you may have noticed, people tend to be judged as less attractive as they get older.
I’m not endorsing that system, I’m just evaluating it based on how people act.
So does the NFL. Are you making sure NFL players are saving for retirement, too?
If one posted here, I sure would! It’s a shame when people who have usually been exploited most of their lives are allowed to go bankrupt.
You think a woman choosing to enter sex work is being exploited? OF and the NFL can be exploitative platforms, but because they are corporations, not because someone on the internet forgot to save the people taking part in those enterprises
obviously like any sporting personality who gets too old for sport you coach the next generation of only fans contenders, and manage their social media presence, marketing etc. all for a small % of their takings.
Nobody sees a sports athlete get a million dollar contract and says “I hope this guy is saving for retirement. How does he expect to make money when he can’t pitch fastballs at 100 mph?” Why does this comment only happen to women being models?
It’s actually discussed a lot in sports. There are many stories of athletes who earned millions and were broke just a couple of years after retirement because they didn’t have the right people around to help them prepare.
I have a theory about that that I’ll now subject lemmy to! Professional sportsers are often heavily managed from a very young age (practice schedules, diet monitoring, weightlifting regime, traveling). Even in college they often have to sign up for special versions of classes to fit with their schedules (on top of the diet/exercise/practice/travel) making fewer of their own day to day decisions than their peers. When they leave the sport they don’t have all these other people dictating their lives anymore but they haven’t had enough experience living on their own or room to make certain mistakes they would have learned from if they’d been in charge of more of their time and decisions.
I’ve actually found that college athletes (the ones I get to teach) are much better prepared (for “adulting”) than their peers at graduation. They have much better time management skills and tend to manage and navigate group dynamics better. I think some of what you are saying heavily depends on the sport or perhaps athletic level. I’m not teaching anyone near going pro, they just like their sport and enjoyed the scholarship.
Yeah, that’s cause there is a big difference between someone who is going to college and also playing sports vs someone at college to play sports.
If your a student athlete that is never going pro, then you need good time management, keep up grades, etc. If your someone going pro things are a lot different.
From what I’ve heard, you’re right. While athletes are pulling in money for the people upstairs, people take care of them. Once they retire, they become worthless to management/ownership, so they’re thrown to the wolves. With no money management skills of their own, a lot of them go broke.
I’m going to make a generalization and say that someone in a PhD program (any PhD program) is more practical and better at handling financial planning than 95% of all professional athletes.
Yeah recently heard a sports announcer saying that it was amazing that a 31-year-old was playing at the level that they were.
I was like, bro, he’s 31. What the fuck.
i just repeated what others below said better
a ton of famous athletes go broke after retiring because they are retired at like 35 or 40 with an unsustainable lifestyle. So many bad car dealerships and bad restruarants are retired pro athletes trying to maintain a lifestyle that they should have avoided while destroying their body for cash.I guess I’m weird, then, because I think that - especially regarding Olympic athletes in sports that don’t have much of a following.
She can always go back to STEM later. OnlyFans is not necessarily the end of a career.
I hope that’s what she does. She was intelligent and hardworking enough to get into the program in the first place, so that’s good.
She didn’t stop being intelligent when she started doing only fans.
That depends on whether or not people find her only fans.
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Capitalism is a completely inefficient and unsustainable grift based on serving privileged white wieners.
Plenty of Chinese, black, south american weiners.
There is no need to bring in race and divide us. We’re all getting fucked by the 1% regardless of skin color.
What a sad waste of expensive education.
Why do people in academics want to pursue big money in the first place? Misplaced priorities.
As an academic, if I could make $1M/year by showing my body on OF, I would quit my job in a heartbeat. I would make my money while I can and reassess when no one is interested anymore.
Once I’d made my money, maybe I could use my academic expertise to effect some real change in the world. I’d certainly be more capable of making an impact if I were independently wealthy.
Okay thanks for sharing with the world that you’re greedy and arrogant.
Why not just finish your degree and then model? If you’re already in a program that means you’ve completed all of the prerequisite education so it’s only whatever remains of the 3 years the program takes to finish, 4 maximum. You’re not going to age out of modelling in 2 years time.
Let’s be completely honest, if you dropped out in the middle of your PhD study to go earn money, you’re probably never going back.
Our system promotes greed, in fact it operates purely on optimizing for greed.
Capitalism is a wealth based caste system, but kids aren’t taught that in school so many don’t connect the dots until they are in college.
If we don’t want people to value wealth above everything else maybe we shouldn’t have a system that also prioritizes profits above people, the planet, science and everything else.
First of all, thats completely off topic.
Secondly, unregulated Capitalism devolves into a caste system as a result of weakness of the democratic state’s ability to self govern.
If a nation state has the complete authority over all labor and markets it likely isn’t a very free nation, and all authoritarian nations also devolve into castes almost immediately with no recourse to push back.
If a nation state does not have complete authority then it will organically develop markets and therefor is a capitalism, anyways.
There are non capitalistic economic systems that are also don’t require state ownership and are non authoritarian. Literally just incentivizing worker owned coops is an example of how you can drastically shift the economic system without changing the political system. Markets =/= capitalism. The ability to hoard capital and thus power through private ownership is capitalism. I’m not saying that what i described is the perfect system, it’s just an example of something possible outside of your argument.
Lol, no, there aren’t any such systems currently in existence. No where on earth does that.
Worker owned coops have to compete with privately companies unless private companies are outlawed, but in that example the state is expressing absolute authority over how businesses are structured. If the state gives them the freedom, then capitalistic business structures such as privately owned businesses or publicly traded business with vastly disproportionate ownership shares will form.
I didn’t say they exist. Though Sweden was making an attempt (before their president was assassinated in the 1970s) simply by giving employee unions more power. If worker/employee owned co ops had more opportunities for startup funding, why wouldn’t they form organically and compete with traditional businesses?
Corporations only exist because the state exists…
Lmao
Where does the legal fiction called a “corporation” derived rights from, and existence?
Capitalism cannot exist without a state ensuring the ruling class keeps being able to exploit the working class.
Otherwise, who secures land claims? Or other private property from being taken by the working class?
Without the state, use of force secures land claims, and corporations would be more than happy to release the hounds on the rest of us.
A democratic state is a collection of people, mostly workers, that forces the distribution of wealth and ideally equal rights in a court of law and protection of public lands.
You just described capitalism, with a fully privatized state. Much like the system in the US…
the complete authority over all labor and markets it likely isn’t a very free nation, and all authoritarian nations also devolve into castes almost immediately with no recourse to push back.
Yes, that’s an ok description of current reality under capitalism.
Even full state authority does not eliminate markets, it simply changes the participation. A lot of internet Communists get this wrong. Marx is pretty clear that the state only withers away when there is no more material scarcity. Unfortunately, instead of actually working towards that endpoint, we are stuck endlessly relitigating whether or not implementing a brutal dictatorship is a good way to liberate workers.
Good for her! I’m sure it’s not easy to achieve that kind of success on OnlyFans, so clearly she made some smart moves to get where she is.
/s?
I guess it depends on how easy you can be discovered. It’s easy to take off your clothes and get people to pay you to do it, but if you’re in a sea of 1000s of women doing the same thing are you seen?
Same thing with being a YouTuber. Anyone can create a channel. It’s hard to make that channel worth something.
I’m sure “working hard” is way more important than being attractive on a platform where people pay to watch attractive women naked. Oh, wait…
Being successful anywhere requires hard work. You can be born into money, but you’ll have to work a lot to be a success yourself, not just a nobody with a lot of money coming from those that were successful. You can be born attractive (and that’s subjective anyway, people have a lot of different tastes and kinks) and without hard work, it’ll not be worth anything.
No idea why you are being so patronizing and dismissive. Either you are bitter and lashing out, or you need a little bit more perspective and general empathy, as in capability to see the world not only from your personal point of view, and the capability to process that, too.
This reads like a typical white knight comment one might find on reddit. Lemmy is getting more and more disappointing every day.
If you really believe that a person that makes 1M on OF “deserves” that money and did “hard work” then I don’t really think there’s anything we can discuss.
For someone who doesn’t have anything to discuss, you do have an awful lot to say and keep repeating. Suit yourself.
I do have something to discuss. If you prefer to ignore my point then what can I say. Suit yourself.
If you really believe that a person that makes 1M on OF “deserves” that money and did “hard work” then I don’t really think there’s anything we can discuss.
Someone sounds a little jelly. Seriously though, there are all kinds of people making way more money than that without doing a damn thing to justify a penny of it. The Internet allows niche means of making money simply because you can “sell” your products to thousands or even millions of people–in this case directly from the comfort of her home. There are plenty of other schemes out there that can be similarly lucrative if you’re good at what they want you to do.
Clearly this woman is quite smart to be in that field in the first place, why wouldn’t she take the more lucrative route? Wouldn’t you?
Not jealous at all, just disappointed I guess. I just can’t congratulate a person that had the skill/luck/whatever to get 1M with a minimum effort and they then decide to drop out of a job that could actually contribute something to society to do the banal and functionally useless job full time. It’s incredibly wasteful.
Also no, I wouldn’t go for the “lucrative” route if I already have more than enough money.
Finally, I have several friends that are phd students and you dom’t have to be super smart to do that. You do need dedication though. But the same can be said for quite a few lines of work.
Being attractive is a prerequisite, but not enough. There’s a lot of attractive women, not all of them make 1 mio. on OF.
No, no sarcasm. The vast majority of OnlyFans creators barely make any money. This woman did something smart to achieve success.
I googled this story to, uh, fact check it, and found this article saying that her move to OF is fake news. Except, upon closer examination, it seems the article is AI slop and completely made up. How ironic.
So I’m reading this debunking, and
Zara smartly leveraged the viral moment to confront the misinformation head-on and promote her YouTube channel, where her actual content lies.
So I go to her YouTube channel https://youtube.com/@zara-dar and,
Description
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Go to https://zaradarz.com/ which is listed as her website on her YouTube channel
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And I’m just rereading your comment and seeing that you said the debunk article is AI slop, I thought you were saying that article called others AI slop lmao.
Well, if anyone else misreads it they can also see this too now lol.
I personally never understood dropping out when something like this happeneds. Like bro now you got the money to have the degree and not worry about paying it off. Might as well have it just to have it
They drop out so they can do the other thing full time instead of part time…
Especially because it’s porn. Gotta make as much money now while she can
Yeah, can always go back to school when you age out at 25…
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Academia is misogynist enough without an OF account. She’s leaving a shitty job not just a low paying job.
I know right? Imagine how much more a doctor could charge for sexy pics.
A science PhD is fucking grueling.
As someone who didnt even pass their first year and dropped out, mind explaining whats involved in a PHD and why science ones are so grueling?
It’s basically just working for 6 years for not much pay while your friends who got jobs right out of undergrad are making at 3-5x as much.
Not only that, but all the political game involved in the academia is mental.
And the work-life balance is atrocious.
When I started, my advisor told me to not think of myself as an employee, but as a “researcher”. IE I don’t get to clock out, my life revolved around learning/reseaching
But having the PHD makes up for it after right?
That’s what they say but I haven’t finished mine yet so I can only hope
Generally no if we consider it from a financial perspective. Whether or not it’s worth it on an emotional level is very individual
I work in engineering with a masters, and I make more than people with only a bachelors. However, even with the masters pay bump I am unlikely to ever make enough extra money to make up for the financial losses I incurred in getting the degree. It’s only “worth it” financially if you work full time and have your company pay for the degree.
PHDs make about the same amount of money and get about the same positions as someone with an only Masters. You get a PHD because you love studying and research enough to basically give up half of a decade of your life.
I considered getting a PHD until I realized that >50% of the PHD students and graduates I spoke to described it as, “6 years of my life I’ll never get back”.
😢😔
It really depends on the field. In some areas PhDs make less than bachelors.
Me earlier in the thread
And OnlyFans job is grueling fucking? 🤔
Classical Electrodynamics by Jackson helped me feel like a jock in Calculus.
Now I’m reading about Bessel functions on my weekend… how dare you.
Simple man me detrackers then clicks 🤗
Wdym?
Google is really shady. So whenever we use the share button on YouTube, they add a code to the end of the link that offers no benefit to us, but allows Google to tie your machine as source who shared the link that others click on. When you look at the link that you posted, you’ll see the letters SI in it and after that, you see the tracker.
To work around this, on desktop, you can copy the link from the address bar, which won’t include the code. Also, Firefox has a feature to copy links without trackers in them, because the practice is pervasive. On mobile, I would recommend just backspacing the junk in hopes of protecting your privacy a tiny bit.
I see. I didn’t realize that I had sent a link with trackers. Thanks for pointing it out!
That is one of the funniest things I have seen in a very long time!
“Do I look like Feynman” is my favorite bit. Starting and ending with “fucking Bessel functions” is also very poetic.
In some ways I understand it though. I’m sure the pecking order and bragging rights of being one of the only fans people that makes enough money to classify yourself in like the top 5% of income earners in America is probably more thrilling and exciting than having a PhD.
Plus, if she’s going for her PhD she probably already has her master’s degree so it’s not like she gave up academia entirely without getting anything from it.
That being said, I still agree with you. If you were close enough to be in the program you might as well just finish it off. What’s it going to do, stop you from posting your photos on only fans?
Uhh…do you people know anybody who’s been through a phd program? How would you rate their happiness from 1 to 10 while they were mid-phd program?
If that crap isn’t going to deliver them the world, it’s gonna be a reeeeeal hard sell to get em to put up with it.
This. I dropped out of my computer science PhD to start at the bottom of the industry in my early thirties.
If you don’t have a clear love of academia, a PhD is a clearly unrewarding slog.
And if you can earn a million each year as an alternative, why wouldn’t you go for it? I love science, but we live in a real world, not in a dream, and this real world decided that science wouldn’t be rewarding.
With 2m instead properly you won’t have to work another day in your life, with 1m you won’t either but you might not be able to live in the buffet cities.
Give me 1m and I’m retiring tomorrow.
How old are you and where do you live that you think thats enough to retire comfortably?
We were talking about winning the lotto at work once and I said with a million dollars I would probably quit if I could earn 5% interest on it to get 50k a year. My boss was like, that’s not enough you have to think about daycare and mortgage and car payments and everything. I then reminded him that I was currently making 30k a year. He stopped talking very quickly lol.
50k us is about what I make now and I’m in the suburbs.
Invested safely that’s what I would make with 1m, with 2m I’m having the time of my life.
I could have lived off that at any age as I’m currently making the most I’ve ever made by about 6k compared to my previous job…
The thing you may be forgetting to account for is inflation. 50k a year means your drawing the whole profit annually and in 10 or 20 years suddenly 50k is not enough to live on. You need enough in the fund to ensure it’s making more money than you spend so it can grow YoY and make more each year to cover inflation.
Additionally, if you are not working you are paying 100% out of pocket for insurance. One health incident draws your savings below the amount you need to live off of.
Right now they say not to retire at 60 unless you fully own your property and have over a million in your 401k. And that’s accounting for taking a loss to your social security payments past 67 due to early withdrawal and for out of pocket health insurance costs. If you are younger you need even more.
They said invested, not ‘put in a checking account and drawn down’. Even 5% returns would be 50k annually, which is already more than the median individual income. Actual return on the S&P 500 for the last 25 years has been around 8%.
Buffet cities? Every city I know has at least one buffet.
Bigger, swipe typing does that sometimes 🤪
Cicis pizza cities only
