• Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world
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    And who put lead in the gas? Cars aren’t that simple anymore anyways.

    Which generation can’t let go of power?

    Nah. I call bullshit.

    • 𝕾𝖕𝖎𝖈𝖞 𝕿𝖚𝖓𝖆@lemmy.world
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      You can find service manuals online. I found the full blown 1,397 page OEM service manual for my '97 Prelude. For free. And failing that, there’s probably a YouTube video for it, especially if it’s not something incredibly rare.

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        The keyword is right there: 97. Anything after ~2014 and it’s a mess to find manuals, for older stuff i was able to easily find manuals and fix them no problem

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      You can’t, because the previous generations allowed capitalism to ruin consumer goods with regulatory capture and planned obsolescence.

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        I mean, I’m pretty sure cars’ lifespans have generally increased over the years, despite not being able to easily tweak valves or what have you. So many older cars don’t have a 6th digit on the odometer because it was so common for a car to die after about 100,000 miles anyway. Now you might hit some issues, but that kind of mileage is basically your car’s equivalent of a person’s 40th birthday.

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          If I have to take the car to the dealership and only the dealership can fix my problem its not a car I want I’m gonna be real with you.

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            The only item in my Honda (that I am aware of) that requires dealership attention is calibrating the “Honda Sense” sensors if they get replaced. And that is because the equipment required is so expensive, only the dealership carries it.

            Plus, the only time I needed that was when I was hit by someone and the sensor was replaced because the panels were replaced.

            I can still do all the minor maintenance myself, it is just a LOT more convenient for me to let my mechanic do it.

            Love my Honda. (Please bring back the Fit!)

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          Yes, technology does march forward. That doesn’t change the fact that many cars you’re not even allowed to touch yourself, even the few things you can fix that don’t require expensive speciality tools.

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      I’llbe 100% honest, bud, but if you can’t find a service manual on the internet or simply ask at the dealership I probably wouldn’t trust you to do the work. They’re available, just try even a little. And boy if you trust what little information may or may not be in an owner’s manual…

      Besides, the only reason that info was in there was because the valves needed much more frequent adjusting. You really shouldn’t miss not needing to have that information so readily available.

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        You’d be surprised how hard it is to find manuals these days.

        Manufacturers have taken to:

        1. Not printing them at all

        2. Hiding them behind paywalls with exorbitant prices

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    I’d make a “print a pdf” joke, but honestly, that’s already an unnecessary “skill”.

    Sadly, technology has moved towards single finger usability and thrown out features in the process. Printing a PDF is now easy, because there’s a big button (that sells you a cloud subscription for some reason), but it’s also the only thing the app does.

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      PDFs are designed to be printed, that’s why they’re formatted as pages instead of continuous text like HTML. “Portable Document Format”. Unless I’m missing some reference you’re making here.

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        The joke to counter “you can’t even write cursive” and other boomer bs is “well at least I know how to print a PDF”, alluding to the abysmal tech intuition of some boomers, usually those in controlling roles like managers or CEOs.

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        That comes out of the box with current versions of Windows. The era of Bullzip PDF Printer is gone.

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          Yet its still a surprise to many. But I suppose that’s a knowledge gap not a skill issue. Now getting younger folks these day to follow a file directory, that’s a true challenge.

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    many engines do not require this procedure. It depends on whether the engine is equipped with hydro-compensators: these are devices designed for automatic adjustment of the thermal gap. They work at the expense of the oil entering them from the engine (that is why, actually, and are called “hydro-compensators”) and completely exclude the necessity of periodic manual adjustment of valves.

    https://www.bradkimberley.com/valve-adjustment-what-is-it-why-is-it-needed-and-what-happens-if-you-dont-do-it/

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      I’ve never met an engine that doesn’t need valve adjustments, even with hydraulic lifters.

      Now the adjustment period is far longer today, like in the 100k miles range.

      Just be glad you rarely see shim/bucket adjustment these days. Boy was that a bitch.

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    And who decided to change the manual to include warnings to not drink the battery?

    It sure as hell wasn’t my generation.

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    We’ve actually been misunderstanding the phrase this whole time. It’s not “common sense” and referring to things everyone should know; it’s actually “common cents” and is about those take-a-penny-leave-a-penny things. As in “when you’re just a little short, use some common cents.” 😌

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    It’s there because someone stupid fuck did it, and the car manufacturer don’t want to be legally responsible next time it happens.

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      It’s actually because valves were shit way back when and they are no longer something that the owner’s manual needs to explain. Many car manufacturers suck but this one is actually because they don’t anymore.

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      This is the best way I can put it.

      Before Reagan was elected, middle class was defined as one income supporting a family of four. In those days $1 million was still considered a vast fortune. By the time Bush Sr. was voted out, middle class had been redefined as two incomes to run the house, and $1 million was what a rich guy paid for a party.

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    Who’s job is it to teach common sense? If you find the future generation lacking, that’s probably your fault.

    When I was a teenager, my dad gave me shit for not knowing how to change brake pads, and my response was “Who was supposed to teach me?”. Like, it’s not like I could afford a car working weekends, and he was always too busy to have me around whenever something went wrong. So next time he changed the brakes, he actuality taught me.

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      I just want to point something out: Knowing not to drink battery fluid is not common sense!

      Common sense is something that anyone would “just know” by instinct. Like not running out on to a highway with vehicles traveling at high speed. No one needs to teach that because it’s obvious from a glance.

      If someone had never encountered a highway and never heard of such a thing they might wander out onto one when there’s no traffic. Would that be a failing of common sense? No! Because that type of decision-making requires some education/experience.

      Lead tastes sweet! I haven’t tried it (haha) but there’s a reason why loads of children get lead poisoning by eating it every year. If you didn’t know that it’s poisonous and haven’t been educated about not eating/tasting random things you might just try the lead acid of a car battery! Especially if it’s really old and has become less acidic (that’s what sulfation does: Reduces the acidity).

      “Common sense” is actually just a practical form of, “basic education”. Not everyone gets it and everyone always has gaps in their knowledge. What’s common sense to one person isn’t to another.

      TL;DR: Common sense is a myth. We’re all born ignorant.

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    That’s because in the last 50 years someone somewhere was stupid enough to drink the battery. You can’t blame that on the latest generation.