• BibiTofu@lemmy.world
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    Well shit. I never knew what “ostensibly” meant. I thought it was a direct equivalent to the French “ostensiblement”. And apparently so does Google Translate.

    Except that the definition of “ostensiblement” is “Not hidden, done with the intention to be seen”. Which is not at all the English meaning. So now I wonder what’s an accurate English translation for “ostensiblement”…

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      “Not hidden, done with the intention to be seen”. Which is not at all the English meaning.

      It sort of fits the English definition, because it’s often used in the context of deception: a person could ostensibly think one thing but actually believe another. The thing they ostensibly think is the thing they intend to be seen, while their true feelings remain hidden.

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    If you know what they mean, who cares? Does it give you an erection to “correct” people when literally everyone knows what the person means? You’re not winning any brownie points being a wannabe middle school English teacher. You’re just an insufferable twat.

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      El Guapo, I know that I, Jefe, do not have your superior intellect and education, but could it be that once again, you are angry at something else, and are looking to take it out on me?

      Jefe, ¡Three Amigos!

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      When you keep speaking wrong*, it indicates that you have no regard for being understood, and hence you don’t give a rat’s ass about a) your listeners and b) your language. Meaning you’re an insufferable twat.

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        11 months ago

        A total of zero people are confused when someone says “supposably” instead of “supposedly.” All you think about is how you or someone else you know was corrected and made fun for speaking “wrong.”

        Also, “correcting” peoples pronunciations has a deep-rooted history in oppressing minority groups, e.g. “ask” vs. “axe.” You’d know this if you weren’t full of so much hate and ignorance.

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          Them- “btw, you’ve pronounced that word incorrectly.”
          You- “THAT’S RACIST. You are full of hate and ignorance!”

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            You’re not an English teacher, right? You’re not speaking to your kids, right? You’re just having regular conversations with people, right? If you want to beat rules into people who don’t speak like you do, you might actually be full of hate and ignorance and you’re probably racist, that is 100% correct.

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              I don’t think so. As a non native English speaker, I am happy when people help me to improve my English. So I totally would do the same for other people, I don’t think that makes me a racist but rather someone that cares about language as it allows me to better understand intention, such as racist ones.

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    Genuine question: why do people care? The goal of language is to communicate and if you understand what the other person said then they’ve done that