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I was happy for a second and then remembered that karma is a bad take and that he will be getting the absolute best available healthcare and even if he does die, he will be doing so having gotten to old age, in extreme luxury and in more comfort than any of us will ever experience.
I worry that if he does die soon it will only embolden royalist sentiment in this country as the grieving masses will cling on to the “young king” which the media will spin as “progressive” or whatever, and we’ll just keep getting further and further away from abolishing this disgusting establishment.
We seriously need a King Ralph type thing to happen, only the people take over, instead of a stereotypical American. Turn Buckingham palace in to a community centre with a kitchen and a shelter and childcare and a free mental health clinic, and put those gardens to actual use…
Karma is a lie white people tell themselves so they can continue to believe there’s justice in this world.
The same as religion, it all irritates me.
We MAKE justice happen, there is no universal cop.
Which is good because acab.
i dont think that one comes from white people
Karma is historically used and very insidious tool to keep the poor people poor and rich people rich.
We seriously need a King Ralph type thing to happen
More like King Louis XVI type thing to happen
I can understand you wanting to abolish the royal family (I do too), but I can’t understand your hatred of him personally, to actually be happy he has cancer. He doesn’t seem like a bad/evil person to me
You don’t exterminate mosquitoes because they are evil, you get rid of them because they are parasites, unable to exist without feeding on you and your loved ones. They are disease vectors, it’s us or them.
The royal family feeds into hierarchical structures. They benefit from our subjugation. They knowingly and intentionally contribute to death and misery worldwide for their own benefit. If Charles was a decent man he’d abdicate.
Jesus man mosquitos are just trying to live, that’s not a fair comparison for them
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So petition for the monarchy to be dismantled. Write to your MP. If there’s enough support for it maybe we can get a referendum for it. Though unfortunately I don’t think there’s yet a significant majority of the public that do want that.
I just don’t get being happy at him having cancer. That doesn’t even bring us any closer to dismantling the monarchy. But I guess you must have reasons for having more hatred for him that I’ve not been exposed to
When have you ever seen a petition change a single thing? You really think that signing names on a piece of paper would be sufficient to take down the Monarchy?
You realize how naive that is at best, right?
Fair point, but it needs action, not just laughing at someone getting cancer
Can I do both?
Write to your MP. If there’s enough support for it maybe we can get a referendum for it.
Why write to them when you can start an official petition and get the House to debate abolishing the monarchy. Only need 10,000 signatures to force the issue to be debated.
If sitting on a gold throne, in a gold room, riding around in your gold carriage, covered in jewels, none of which were (or ever could be) “earned”, but rather pillaged, without even knowing what a days work feels like, while the people you’re parading your “god given right” to lord over, and whose wealth you hoard privately overseas, are having to choose between heating and eating as they work 3 zero hour jobs just to survive - isn’t considered evil in your mind, it is your moral compass that is the problem, not me feeling momentary joy when a cancer gets cancer.
He cheated on his wife, very publicly for years. Idk about your views but maintaining a mistress immediately excludes you from being a good person. Charles was a prick for a long time before he started committing to charity, conservation, social outreach programs, etc
No disagreements about about him being a prick, but wishing cancer and even death on another person seems pretty wild to me.
Please point to where anyone wished cancer on anyone?*
Also, the fact that people don’t feel sorry for the filthy rich old man getting what is almost certainly an age related disease (because it’s not like he was exposed to the levels of shit food and air and stress that gives the rest of us cancer), is wild to you, but the existence of a “god appointed” ruler that leeches off of his people while they struggle to survive isn’t, says a lot more about you than me not giving much of a shit does about me…
*E: you know what? Even if I had, wishing death on a person whose entire existence depends on the oppression (and death) of others on a mass, almost unimaginable scale, is still less morally repugnant than defending them. ¯\(ツ)/¯
Eat the fucking rich - they’ve brought it on themselves.I don’t think that wishing death on someone is always bad but I don’t really get it for King Charles
Y’all mother fuckers must be white as hell, then.
Is anyone going to bother to explain why he’s so bad?
Here’s an article going into some of the crown’s crimes, which Charles has willingly benefitted from and continues to do so.
Didn’t realise I opened twitter instead of Lemmy today…
But he was only happy for a second and since they believe in karma, now they aren’t happy. Nobody said no take backs so they’re probably good.
Fair enough!
It’s costs too much to heat. You can build a modern structure with less money.
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King Ralph.
Now there’s a name I’ve not heard in a long time.
A long time.
What exactly do you hate about him? Is it his stance on climate change or the Prince Trust maybe? The Royal family are an important source of culture, tourism, and soft power when the UK’s overseas influence is waning. What good to you think will come of getting rid of them?
The Royal family are an important source of culture, tourism, and soft power
The Royal family isnt an important source of tourism.
Palaces like Versailles and Sanssouci get millions of visitors every year without a group of racists and pedophiles around and actively in power to give it some greater meaning.
What good to you think will come of getting rid of them?
We’d become a proper modern country where the person who represents the nation is chosen by the nation? We’d move on from a system where who’s up front simply depends on who their mum or dad were? We’d rid ourselves of a system trained with centuries of imperial exploitation, racism and subjugation? We’d open up new tourism opportunities, with the palaces and castles being available for anyone to visit, a la Versailles?
And that’s just off the top of my head.
The UK truly is in shambles if their tourism industry and culture depend on a cabal of ghouls siphoning vast amounts of wealth from the people purely for show.
Personally, I like to think the people of the UK have a lot more to them than their vestigial rulers.
You think no tourist will go to see the palace if the inbreeds don’t exist anymore?
i actively want the UKs overseas influence to wane
I’ve got a very good news for you then! Heard of Brexit?
Feel free to educate yourself bootlicker, I’ll even start you off, but I don’t have the energy this evening to invest in someone with their head that deep up the ass of the establishment stomping an all our necks…
It doesn’t explain why you have so much venom. I see the royal family as British heritage. I don’t see how having a monarchy with no real power has any effect on the day to day lives of British people. Certainly not enough to explain the hate.
You know what else is a British heritage? Famines in India.
Aristocracy is privilege without any kind of merit whatsoever. It costs the tax payer millions and undermines democracy.
So some guy came to England, killed another guy who claimed to rule it, and now we have to watch their family spend eternity in decadent luxury because “British Heritage”. pfft.
Tell you what. I’ll go perform some actions that make myself king, and then a few generations from now my family will be British heritage. Then we can all be happy.
Not to mention that British heritage belongs to a German dynasty.
a monarchy with no real power
I don’t know if it’s that you don’t know anything about the royal family, or that you don’t know anything about how power works, or both.
They have influence, not governing power. Sure you could argue they don’t deserve the influence they have just for being in that position. The main point however is questioning the /hate/. I know you’re not the poster who I was replying to, but I didn’t want to distract the point of my post. Why should we hate the monarchy so much?
We shouldn’t hate the monarchy, necessarily. We should hate monarchy as a concept.
It’s archaic, it formalises and legitimises unbelievable levels of inequality and elitism, and it gives rise to at least the strong possibility (and in the UK’s case at least, the actuality) of a tiered legal system, with some laws simply not applying to some people because of their position.
It’s a repulsive idea, based on historical might and hereditary right, and with no regard for democracy or equality of all people.
That makes sense. I agree with that. Thank you.
I felt somewhat disheartened that the response of a guy announcing he has cancer is filled with such toxicity.
They have influence, not governing power
The old man that this post is about literally does have governing power, not only in the UK but also in 14 other countries including Australia and Canada. A common argument made by monarchists is that the monarch’s actual influence is negligible, and their governing power should be ignored because it is only ceremonial.
As Wikipedia puts it:
Royal assent is the method by which a monarch formally approves an act of the legislature, either directly or through an official acting on the monarch’s behalf. Under a modern constitutional monarchy, royal assent is considered little more than a formality. Even in nations such as the United Kingdom, Norway, the Netherlands, Liechtenstein and Monaco which still, in theory, permit their monarch to withhold assent to laws, the monarch almost never does so, except in a dire political emergency or on advice of government.
But… there is a catch:
It turns out that there is also a less formal process (or a “parliamentary convention”; another part of the UK’s heritage is having an “unwritten constitution”, whatever that means) called King’s Consent whereby the monarch, in secret, is consulted before parliament is allowed to debate anything which might affect their personal interests. And it turns out, a lot of things might affect their personal interests, so, this procedure has been and continues to be used to review, shape, and in some cases veto, numerous laws before they are allowed to be debated by parliament. You can read more here.
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They don’t even need that sort of power for the argument to hold weight but yes, they do hold exactly that sort of power and use it for things like ensuring that Buckingham Palace isn’t affected by racial equality in employment laws https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/feb/08/royals-vetted-more-than-1000-laws-via-queens-consent
Then they hide it from us, too
That is quite a damnig article. Thanks I understand your view on that now.
I don’t see how having a monarchy with no real power has any effect on the day to day lives of British people.
Then what the hell is the point in the amount of tax money that we spend on them? If tourism is such a big money spinner for the country then getting rid of them and keeping the related buildings would still bring in money without having to pay for the decadent lives of these parasites.
They are “British heritage” because they killed, conquered and stole from our ancestors.
So we blame the sons for the crimes of their fathers.
What do you mean by “blame”?
sorry, but arent the crimes of their fathers the sole basis for our worshipping them, allowing tbem political power and sending the pricks millions upon millions of tax payer pounds?
you dont reckon its a little disingenuous to complain about people shitting on their heritage when said heritage is the entire argument for their existence
You’re not wrong. I take the view that our history, be it good or bad, is part of who we are as a people. However, I wouldn’t want Britain to abolish the monarchy without good reason, and something that occured in the here and now rather than the past.
There are some replies to this thread that have enlightened me on the power the monarchy holds, which I don’t agree they shoud have. I initially thought the monarchy was a symbolic relic, but it seems it’s not the case.
Who cares about this random man having cancer?
When he dies the UK will spend around $300 milion on his funeral and a party for his kid.
Fuck the monarchy. Fucking parasites.
Unelected sponges, as Bill Bailey once put it
Will it also become a Holiday or is he not that cool?
So brave and controversial of you to pretend he’s just a random man
But he literally is an ordinary guy. The most consequential thing he has ever done with his life is to be born into an arbitrarily special family where he lived in luxury and prominence for no other reason than he continued existing. He is nothing more than an ordinary guy with extraordinary luck.
Luck or not he is the king, so he’s not just a random guy. Pretending to not undeerstand that fact just to make a point adds nothing to the discussion
So brave and controversial for you to be eating downvotes for not being in the hivemind
Hmm…
I care, I don’t like him and like the chance to cheer for the cancer
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It will be so funny if he takrs a sharp turn downhill and dies. Dude was famous for never getting a chance to be king and then to go out so quickly would be * chef’s kiss *
Oh his death bed “but mummy I want to be king!”
It is nevertheless another human you are talking about.
Do you think they have any compassion for the random proles like us? Like they could divest themselves of wealth to help people, and just live luxurious lives instead of gold flakes in food lives.
I think any human being with enough compassion to deserve treatment as anything more than a hostile enemy would do that
I think they’d have compassion enough to not laugh at somebody’s cancer diagnosis, yes.
I’m all for disliking the institution. Doesn’t mean I think he deserves to have cancer or it would be funny if he died.
He literally chooses every single day to actively ignore the plight of the people he claims to rule. He does nothing
Every single day he actively chooses to ignore suffering, probably even cracks jokes about it, while actively working to preserve his enormous privilege and protect his kin from facing consequences for their heinous actions. He stands at the head of an institution of violence, racism, cruelty, and exploitation and every single moment of his life he chooses to side with that over any earnest attempt to redeem their reputation.
The entire justification for their privilege is so insane it makes phrenology look respectable.
He is horrible, he could help so many people with a few words and the equivalent of pocket change but he chooses not to for fear of starting a process that ends with him living as one of the ordinary citizens he claims to protect. It’s fucking bananas that you think there is some moral reasons to extend civility to such a monsterous person.
If you think I’m defending the monarchy, think again. I’m defending compassion.
It’s not brave or noble to police expressions of anger at oppressors it’s just foolish. It won’t make society better, civility is just a tool the powerful use to enforce the status quo.
He chooses to let someone starve over feeding them, this is fine a civil behavior. I call him a fucking cunt for doing that and wish death upon him and this is uncivil behaviour and I lack compassion? nonsense, it is compassion that fills me with rage.
Good for you, you get a good start for morality then
Barely.
Nah.
Imagine anyone saying that about one of your family members.
It’s okay to wish bad things happen to a monarch billionaire landlord, actually. It’s good and rad.
If I ever have a golden piano while someone on the planet goes cold and hungry at night you can draw and quarter me.
Imagine anyone saying that about one of your morally-bankrupt, billionaire, pedophile, mass-murdering, genocide-supporting, colonialist, cartoonishly-evil family members.
I’m rich! See ya later suckers, I’m subscribing to Lemmy Deluxe Edition!
it’s okay if my family members die shortly after becoming king of england
I love the people in here standing up for him lol. An absolute fuckton of people die every day. Basically every moment has human death in it. No one defending him cares a single wit about them, but they’ll get wound up over this old man dying of something many many people die of daily.
Considering everything that’s come out about the royal family, I can’t find a single care in me for him. I feel more for the countless faceless strangers dying worse deaths. This old pampered fuck will die well in comparison. He doesn’t need any sympathy from me.
you don’t have to be a royalist to feel empathy for someone with cancer…
I’ll save my empathy for cancer patients who don’t have his history.
Saved for the people who’s losing the NHS while the royal family have doctors 24/7, paid by tge taxpayers, ready for them.
Again, empathy isn’t a limited supply
Damn straight. Eat the rich and royalty.
Sympathy can be found between shit and syphilis in the dictionary
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He’s got a cool hat. He doesn’t wear it much, but he has it. That’s what matters.
Nothing is cool about this fucking family
The royal family, including Charles are big proponents of homeopathy. Let’s see how much homeopathy is going to help him now. I’m sure at least as much as those alternative methods Steve Jobs chose helped him, back then…
You’ve got to be kidding me. Is it corruption or stupidity? As in, are they selling vials of contaminated water as medicine or are they just known to trust pseudoscience?
The water/solvent isn’t even contaminated. It is deluted so thoroughly, you can’t even find a single molecule of whatever ingredient is supposed to show any effect.
Not supposed to be contaminated!
It’s hypocrisy and the typical rich bozo alienation syndrome, they have easy and unlimited access to best medicine in the world, so it’s easy to forget that others don’t and promote charlatanerie. It could also be malicious if we look at how they don’t do anything against gutting the healthcare.
So, stupidity or strong belief in placebo?
I imagine he is not that stupid nor really believes in a placebo.
i mean one of king charles issues has been furthering cancer research…
Oh no… anyway…
Oh man, he only just got his dream job.
Nah, he was doing his dream job the whole time, running a research farm and advocating for sustainable farming practices. Soon as he became king, he had to stop with the targeted advocacy.
he also advocated for homoeopathy…maybe that’s what he’ll treat his cancer with (i hope so)
I recently got the side-eye from a lot of people because I said that homeopathy is not the same as natural remedies.
What’s unnatural about water?
It’s not that there’s anything unnatural about water. It’s just not a remedy for anything but dehydration.
Ah the Steve Jobs treatment method, maybe he’ll adopt the fruit diet. Shame Harry gave up his claim, he seemed like the one with Lizzie’s spirit
oh no anyway
but in all seriousness I hope he dies that guy is a piece of shit
Based on what specific actions? Just curious
He was close friends with two high profile pedophiles. That’s enough for me.
- He’s a Royal.
Yeah, hot take, but he’s underrated. Monarchy is dumb but at least this guy is progressive and personally kind.
Personally kind enough to publicly carry on an affair for years
We all gotta get some
Just sounds like a rich dude to me. Like, I think this is the main reason he’s unpopular, but aristos often keep a harem and Diana herself seems overrated.
Him and his current wife visibly mocked Inuit throat singers and have a long history of being childish and rude during events that are supposed to honor them. Personally kind to whom?
Did he? I didn’t know about that. So, just white people then.
When I signed up here, I genuinely thought this place was going to be better than Reddit. Seeing the difference in comments here and on Reddit for this exact same piece of news, just made me realise that this place is a piece of shit with absolutely zero empathy for anyone.
“Could it be that the zero empathy is because the man is reviled globally for good reasons?”
“No, it’s the colonized who are wrong.”
The redditors got it right for once?
Why would you have empathy for monarchs? It’s the ultimate form of nepotism, believing that they can rule an entire country because of their bloodline. If they don’t abdicate the throne and dissolve the institution, they don’t deserve respect.
The redditors didn’t agree with wishing death upon the man, no. It was the exact opposite from what I saw.
Redditors habitually wish death upon homeless people and porch pirates, of course they bootlick monarchs too.
Probably just the anglo intelligence assets that pass for moderators over there removed all the cool comments. What can you do
Imagine pearl clutching for some ancient inbred royal dipshit. Literal medieval peasant brain. “Oh no won’t someone think of the million year old pervert who lived a long life full of luxury one can barely begin to comprehend” Fuck him, fuck his whole family, I hope every single royal gets aggressive untreatable cancer, that’s better than they deserve.
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I didn’t vote for him!Holy fucking shit, triggered much little bro?
Mainly confused and surprised someone would support a monarch in the 21st century. You don’t even have the excuse that the queen has been in charge for your whole life so you feel obligated to support her out of a misplaced sense of loyalty or something. Some ancient failson gets to sit in a golden chair and you can’t lick his boots fast enough. It’s pathetic, you aren’t even worshiping someone who can claim they got to where they are on personal merit, he just had to wait for his mom to die and he almost couldn’t even do that! Monarchy is such a farce, I’d be embarrassed to support that shit
Sure seems to have hit a nerve with you.
Charlie is never gonna fuck you.
made me realise that this place is a piece of shit with absolutely zero empathy for anyone.
Is every person the king of england or how do you get to this conclusion?
No one voted for the wanker, but we still have to pay to keep him and his incestous kin in riches while our fellow countrymen starve in the street.
He wants pity, he should abandon this hereditary rule bullshit and take all those unelected peers up in parliament with him back to the medieval age where they belong.
If this was a gay asylum seeking Guatemalan Muslim woman union leader we’d probably react differently, so you’re wrong about that.
Damn redditors actually have a correct opinion on the most basic thing?
Well shit, broken clocks and all that
Reading is hard apparently. I said the difference in comments between here and reddit, meaning what I saw over there was NOT people wishing for his death.
Common Reddit L
give us one singular solitary good reason we should have empathy for this decrepit, cheating, silver spoon mouthed, tax leeching, sex pest, waste of money and attention
He’s about to prove homeopathy really works. He’s going to change the world for the better.
Not so, we have plenty of empathy for those who actually deserve it.
Palestine will be free, long live the PFLP, long live Ansar Allah, full support to the DPRK in it’s quest to free their southern siblings from beneath the heel of the genocidal American empire.
king charlie plz notice me uwu
Nah its just a leftist echo chamber. They have sympathy for the working class, but are very prejudiced against the wealthy. Personally, I would guess Charles is a decent human being, like most people. Im sure hes done some shitty things over the course of a long and extremely public life, but pretty much everyone has. I disagree with the concept of royalty but that doesn’t mean I want all monarchs to drop dead. Not a lot of nuance on Lemmy.
I understand your frustration but I fail to understand why the need of empathy for a monarch of all people
Prostate cancer is very common, very survivable, and very easily treatable. It’s a serious health problem, but he’s almost definitely gonna be fineMe fail reading comprehension. The article says it’s NOT prostate cancer
What I read said it wasn’t prostate cancer, but also wouldn’t say what cancer it was.
I would think colon cancer then. They “found” it during prostate exam. So same area.
Seeing as he is a rich cunt, it could be glioblastoma if they found it during the prostate exam.
So you’re saying there’s hope?
Becomes king
Fucking dies
Lmaooo
English taxpayers paying for another coronation ceremony be like: 🥶*
* can’t pay to heat their house.
Don’t knock it, we get a day off when they die and a day off when we get a new one.
Sometimes we get a day off when they’ve been on the throne for a set number of years.
So for that reason I’d like to keep them.
Give us two extra bank holidays a year, and you can King Ralph all these motherfuckers.
I mean, it did bring more money into the economy than it took out of it, same with Queen Elizabeth II’s funeral, so we could profit off of this
And least he got to be king first :P
I haven’t seen any new coins yet with his face on it. It may be the shortest run of coins with a new face. I’ve had the same face on my coins for my entire life, these will be the first with a new one.
Shortest run was probably Edward VIII. My dad found a coin with Charles’s face on it. I also bought a few commemoratives. I think it’ll probably start appearing on £1 coins soon as they are the newest
Would be weird for the longest serving monarch to be replaced by the shortest serving one.
Which raises a good question… who was the shortest serving British monarch?
Oh, of COURSE there’s a Wiki for that…
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_British_monarchy_records
"The shortest-reigning monarch was Lady Jane Grey who ruled for 9 days from 6 July until 15 July 1553 (although she was only proclaimed queen by the Lords of the council on 10 July). Her husband Lord Guildford Dudley was her consort for the entire reign, making this the shortest tenure of the male consort of a female monarch. Note: Jane’s reign is disputed.
The king with the shortest definitively known reign was Edgar the Ætheling who ruled for 2 months, 12 days in 1066 before submitting to William the Conqueror. Some records indicate that Sweyn Forkbeard reigned for only 40 days in 1013–4.[7]"
Queen Elizabeth II died 9/8/2022, so Charles has already been in 514 days. He’s good…
He’s still pretty far down the overall list though
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_monarchs_in_Britain_by_length_of_reign
Would be weird for the longest serving monarch to be replaced by the shortest serving one.
That makes a lot of sense actually. Elizabeth II cut into his time.
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So is it the pedo next in line?
No, he’s completely out of the running unless all of King Charles children and grandchildren mysteriously die
Don’t give the pedo any ideas
I think it’s primogeniture monarchy, so it’s from parent to child. Next in line is Charles’ firstborn.
Jesus, lemmy is full of hate
I have 0 sympathy for monarchial families living off the backs of UK taxpayers for… Centuries :|
Yea, I don’t wish death upon the guy but come on, get a job now
As an American, if I got cancer like this dude has, having a job there is a very high chance I’d be destitute IF I lived. World class medical treatment off the backs of his subjects… yeahno my dude, worlds smallest violen playing.jpeg
He can wipe his cancer tears up with whatever the largest denomination of pounds you guys use is xD
But he’s British and we have a good NHS so that’s kinda a weird argument
I hate the royal family but for reasons that many sense
NHS is being gutted as we speak and is not true Single Payer.
It’s markedly better than the dystopian system in the US…but please stop trying to pretend that NHS is beyond reproach. It is not true Single Payer.
Only Canada and South Korea have TRUE single payer healthcare systems.
And when a president gets COVID he gets drugged up and gets the best treatment on the taxpayers dime. While the people are left with life shattering medical debt.
While these subjects can get medical treatment, for just a fraction, and no debts… Like the king…
So what is your point?
We have been playing the whole sad orchestra for you guys, seeing you push out this attitude like it is a win over something.
Prime Minister : President :: Royalty : Kardashians
The president has an actual job tho??? Like wat lmao 🤣 and if you think the king is getting the same medical treatment as Mr jo British bong water, I have some EU membership to sell you.
A new tiny violin joins the choir.
And it is not the dig you wish it is. As it portrays even more that anyone in the UK, even those without an actual job, can get medical treatment without fearing massive medical debt.
That’s not addressing my point of… Why is the king receiving preferential treatment? His role is ceremonial. You could make the argument he’s paying for private treatment (I don’t know if he is or not), if he’s not why does he get to skip the NHS cancer treatment wait list? If he is paying for private… What exactly has he personally done to allow him to have the ABILITY to pay for said treatment:| Not saying all the royals wealth should be seized for the peoplez, more why is his families life style still to my understanding being subsidized by British tax payers? The tourism they bring in would still be coming, it’s not like they’re going to sell Buckingham palace if the gov stopped paying for their shit.
I’m not sure I follow. I know health insurance in the US is often tied to a salaried job, so if you have one, then why would you be destitute ?
Now I’m not British, but I agree with the sentiment
If you have seen breaking bad, the premise of that show is an apt description. Insurance companies here will often deny you necessary life saving medical treatment for… reasons
Other example: a woman with a family history of breast cancer was denied a doctor recommended mammogram to check on some potentially cancerous lumps because she has… Already had too many mammograms.
Profit incentive in the healthcare industry is no bueno:|
Yea I guess I didn’t quite grasp how bad it was
Health insurance doesn’t pay enough for shit, you end up destitute even with it.
alright
Lost/reduced wages from time off work, and health insurance doesn’t cover everything.
ok I see
Because insurance pays for a portion of your treatment, rarely 100% of it, and the moment you start racking up bigger bills, insurance starts looking for ways to not pay your claims. They’ll put a hold on payment until you call them and broker a deal or they go back and forth with your doctor demanding that you receive some treatment other than what that doctor recommends.
I have Crohn’s Disease, an autoimmune disorder that is often treated with immunosuppressants. First, they did not want to pay for my initial “loading dose” because it has to be done by infusion. That’s a ~$25,000 procedure (3-4 hours on an IV). I talked them into it by telling them that only the first dose would be by infusion and the rest by self injection.
But when my company decided to pay for a less expensive insurance plan that started at the beginning of the year, they suddenly didn’t want to pay for the injections either. Now I owe 30% of the cost of my injections. That’s almost $4,000 a dose that I take every 8 weeks, about $25,000/year.
So now I use a coupon program through a separate company, and they bill the remainder of the balance to the company who produces the medicine who give me a $21,000 annual credit toward paying the remainder. So now to get my medicine I must coordinate between my doctor, a specialty pharmacy, my insurance provider, a company that runs the coupon program, and the company that produces the medicine… Just to get a syringe delivered to me on a schedule. And the credit probably won’t last until the end of the year; I’ll probably end up shelling out a few thousand for my meds around Christmas time this year.
If any of the complicated web of companies that collectively get me these meds doesn’t have everything lined up in their system, I don’t get my meds. My last dose was almost three weeks late to me because of all the calling around I had to do. Because we don’t have a central health care authority, that means each company maintains their own system of record. Each phone call involves working through a phone tree to get to a human agent, working through the same set of identity verification steps with them, explaining the situation over again to a different person every time…
It’s a real pain in the ass, and they do it on purpose to get you to give up. Having insurance doesn’t mean your health care is paid for, and you pay a premium (hundreds of dollars) on every paycheck to keep the insurance that still doesn’t pay for your medical costs. Having health insurance does not mean you don’t still pay through the teeth for your health care. Having health insurance does not mean that health care is accessible to you. Having insurance that makes health care accessible today does not mean they won’t change the rules behind your back, and that you will still have access to health care tomorrow.
what the actual fuck… thanks for sharing your story and I wish you courage. Have you considered moving ? given the severity of your condition ?
It’s always a consideration, but the question is where would we move to (and how much am I willing to uproot my family)? Canada is a nice place with a better healthcare system, so maybe there? But that’s expensive all on its own, and I have to consider that I have two autistic kiddos who are currently receiving their education at the best school in the state for special ed kiddos. Is it worth it? Maybe not. For now, I think we should stay where we are. I love it here, except for the high cost of my own care. Think I’d rather stick it out and fight for a better system here. Maybe we can improve things for everyone instead of jumping ship.
All things considered, their situation is not as bad as it could be. I had a job where one of my duties was to get prior authorizations for every procedure we did in an oncology-focused plastic surgery clinic. The vast majority of the procedures were breast reconstruction following mastectomy and skin cancer excisions. I had an insurance company demand documentation and evidence of medical need to close the incision site after excising the melanoma. They were gracious enough to allow the excision without requiring a prior authorization, but in order for the surgeon to close that incision (or in this particular case, fill in the area with a skin graft because the amount of skin to be removed precluded a simple closure), we had to file a mountain of paperwork on a tight deadline because the procedure couldn’t wait more than a week or so.
I’ve also worked in hospitals, and every hospital I’ve worked in has social workers on staff to help patients line up emergency insurance coverage or financial assistance for emergency medical care. I never actually saw the bills for it, but we treated a kiddo that was a bystander in a drive-by shooting that was transferred to our hospital from another ER so that they could have the pediatric trauma surgeons try to fix his femur. So that’s two top-level ER visits, an ambulance ride, an ICU stay, and probably a bunch of surgeries and associated hospitalizations…because this 2 year old got hit in the leg with a stray bullet. The total almost certainly topped 7 digits. Shit’s fucked, yo.
i mean we have the nhs in the uk, so it’s not really the same as the us since everyone here has access to the nhs
it’s pretty silly to say they live off the backs of uk taxpayers when royalist tourism brings in more tax revenue than anything.
Can you provide a source?
The royal family brings in a net positive amount of revenue of you account for receipts from added tourism and spending. The expenses for shipping around the US President for example is another story.
No freaking way they’re a net positive.
What a strange take….
How do they know what % tourists are there because of the royal family?
I can’t speak for other tourists, but I don’t need the royals to actually still exist to be interested in seeing their accoutrements strewn about museums and to walk through their former palaces to admire the woodworking and gilding.
Is hating monarchies not natural? What gives someone the right to rule over others just because of their bloodline?
I mean, having some water nymph toss a sword at someones feet is at least as good of a justification for governmental power - and if I’m honest, a better one at that.
It’s like 40% more creative than “I have all the money and the big boogey man in the sky said I have the right to reign supreme - who are you to question God?”
royals are for guillotines
Please for the love of anything you love stop crying for monarchists and bring back the guillotine. For FUCKS SAKE YOU’RE LITERALLY THINKING LIKE A MIDDLE AGES SERF. GOD EMPEROR SHIT RIGHT HERE
If any of you fucking liberals ever say ANYTHING about communist countries having cults of personality I’m going to haul ass and personally take shits inside your house that will leave you confused for years to come
I came here to say: Good take
…Cup of tea, sir?
That’s quite the hot take.
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I’m begging liberals to remember the one cool thing they ever did, which was chopping off their monarchs’ heads, and commit to that. Just that. Come on now, this is an argument that’s been solved for like 200 years now: monarchs and aristocrats are dogshit and deserve to be forcibly removed from their positions of wealth and authority.
Imagine simping for an inbred German shambling corpse.
Totally out of the loop on UK royalty, because they’re basically just a medieval version of the Kardashians that’s hung around waaaaay too long.
I was under the impression that the monarchy’s power was predicated on their right to rule being divine, which could only be maintained by keeping their bloodline
inbredpure.Charles is German?
Charles is German?
I wouldn’t say he is German, but German dynasties have sit on the British throne since George I was crowned in 1714. Up till queen Victoria all monarchs belonged to the house of Hanover. Victoria married Albert of house Saxe-Coburg and Gotha, and their son Edward VII was counted as the member of that dynasty. Edward’s son George V changed their surname to “Windsor” in 1917.
And i imagine that the house of Saxony which part house Saxe-Coburg and Gotha is, is pretty inbred since basically every surviving european noble today is either part of it or closely related.
Queen Victoria is from the House of Hanover and Prince Albert is from the House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha. The British royal family changed their house to Windsor during WWI because the House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha sounded too German.
If you’re going by just family ancestry, Charles III is mostly German. Here’s me after wasting time on Wikipedia:
Maternal grandfather’s grandparents:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_VII: Anglicized German
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandra_of_Denmark: Danish
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis,_Duke_of_Teck: Austrian
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_Mary_Adelaide_of_Cambridge: German
Maternal grandmother’s grandparents:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claude_Bowes-Lyon,_13th_Earl_of_Strathmore_and_Kinghorne: English
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frances_Bowes-Lyon,_Countess_of_Strathmore_and_Kinghorne: English
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Cavendish-Bentinck_(priest): English
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisa_Cavendish-Bentinck: English
Paternal grandfather’s grandparents:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_IX_of_Denmark: Danish
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louise_of_Hesse-Kassel: German
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Duke_Konstantin_Nikolayevich_of_Russia: Russian Romanov, but he had 3 German grandparents, so his ancestry is mostly German
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_Alexandra_of_Saxe-Altenburg: German
Paternal grandmother’s grandparents:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Alexander_of_Hesse_and_by_Rhine: German
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julia,_Princess_of_Battenberg: Pole of German descent
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_IV%252C_Grand_Duke_of_Hesse: German
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_Alice_of_the_United_Kingdom: German
Thank you for the hardcore wiki linking - sincerely, I appreciate the labor you put into this reply.
C3 is a certified Deutsch.
Wild that they could just… Change their house like that. “Oh all that family lineage and history, no, no the name sounds quite too much like those jerries - the peasants won’t like it much - what now? yes yes, Windsor we are, always have been, chip cheerio - get in the trench my good chap, and fight my former brethren, I mean those awful germans.”
Who did what now?
Do you want a list of the atrocities committed by the English monarchy?
Hate for this family is deserved
I’m listening … 🍿
I dislike the royals, but ultimately any person suffering with cancer is deserving of sympathy.
I kind of think you’d have a different tune if this were Putin to be honest, wanna talk about why? In my mind, all of the appeals to civility are just status quo worship veiled in “human decency” that 1) doesn’t consider the good that would be brought to the world by his passing and 2) isn’t extended to anyone outside of the status quo power structure.
If Putin, Xi or {designated USA enemy} had cancer, fucking westerners would throw 7 days of celebrations
for this guy, who leeches off the work of real human beings and hides child rapists from justice? absolutely, my hate for him is a source of strength and pride, I’m glad to have it on display.
Yeah the news and world news subs really took a tumble of late. I came for some modicum of intellectual debate, but it’s a shame how quickly that derails.
Most subs seem to be afflicted.
It depends very much on what instance the thread is on.
Which instances would you say are not afflicted?
Beehaw.org is pretty chill. Blahaj.zone is cool too.
Remember all the circlejerking about how Lemmy was kinder than Reddit? Nah it’s the same maybe worse, with a heavy heaping of communism sprinkled in.
So if he croaks and his brother and sister and niece and her fried Stacie all croak, who’s going to be kind? You guess it! Rufus the cat.
I think it’s because we are in .ml and the Hexbears are allowed in here
Mod! mods! These dirty anti-monarchists are ruining our civil discussion!
The civility is somewhat lacking.
Genocidal monarchs do not deserve civility, it’s part of the deal.
Charles has committed genocide?
He is the monarch of a state currently bombing Yemen in an attempt to stop their blockade of supplies, military and otherwise, to Isreal. Yes, he is assisting in the genocide of Gaza.
Let’s assume your narrative is true. Where is Charles in the decision making process?
all royalty are bastards
…ARAB?
Except Souphanouvong of Laos, he was cool. Pu-Yi after getting a real job of gardener also could count.
