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      Yeah but TBF most games are bad. If you filter out the shovelware you are left with games that are actually putting in some effort. Usually the VA and writing are at least passable in those. But many genres simply don’t value writing or VA polish very highly. A story-heavy game like Slay the Princess lives or dies by its writing and voice acting. An RTS like Total War where most of the voice acting is unit barks doesn’t need it as much.

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    The dark souls games aren’t as hard as people think they are. Or they’re differently hard than people think.

    I’m not saying they’re easy. But I think people think they’re all lightning fast twitch or die. A lot of the game is more “you took a corner at high speed and fell into a hole in the ground, and then rats ate you while you panicked”.

    Sometimes there’s speed, but a lot of it is staying calm and aware.

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      When one of my friends started playing Dark Souls, one of the first areas he went to was somewhere that was extremely difficult at his level and skill (he went to the catacombs straight after firelink). He found it exceptionally difficult in a not-fun way, but he continued pushing forward, because he had heard about how gruelling and difficult Dark Souls was.

      He told me about this when I was first playing the game, as a way of explaining how the game isn’t necessarily difficult in the way people make it out to be. He needlessly struggled because he was inadvertently listening more to how people talk about the game than what the game was actually communicating to him, via it’s in-game mechanics: namely the skeletons weren’t reviving because the game is unfair and mean, but because there are some mages reviving them; said mages are often difficult to reach, but ranged weapons exist; divine weapons make the skeletons stay dead and can be obtained by explaining other parts of the game; clubs are better against skeletons than swords.

      The thing that he, and later I, loved about the souls games is how the challenge works. I like how they foster an environmental awareness in me, both for lore purposes, and figuring out if there are any sneaky mages hidden around. I like being very autistic and getting attached to certain weapons, leading to some enemies being much more difficult than if I were more flexible (and occasionally, I like changing my play-style when the game’s systems are screaming at me “WHAT YOU’RE DOING ISN’T WORKING. TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT — LITERALLY ANYTHING DIFFERENT, YOU HAVE SO MANY WEAPONS”)

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    Most crafting mechanics suck and feel grafted on. This is especially true if crafting isn’t the main point of the game.

    Breath of the Wild was a much needed change in a series that had started to go stale. While I like Zelda games, the formula of go to the dungeon, get item, defeat boss, go to next dungeon and repeat was getting worn out, with exploration taking a backseat.

    There are too many Pokemon. I don’t know if that’s a hot take, but I’m including it anyway.

    Having parts of the map blocked off at the beginning of GTA games is garbage and the in game explainations even moreso. Part of the fun is walking around doing random stuff, I want to be able to do that from the get go. Thankfully GTA V got it right.

    The GameCube controller is overrated. While I like the giant A button and the shoulder triggers, the D-pad is too small, the X and Y buttons are oddly shaped and easy to mix up, and there should’ve been a shoulder on the left side too.

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      My hot take on games like BOTW and TOTK: when the game is so open ended you can invent your own answer, the answer to every puzzle ends up being the same.

      In BOTW the answer to every puzzle is “balloon”. In TOTK it’s “big stick”. In Scribblenauts it’s “invincible deadly flying rideable friendly <insert your favorite noun here>”. No, I don’t mean literally every puzzle, but it works often enough that I feel like I’m just wasting time if I try doing things any other way.

      The handful of times I’ve actually felt creative in TOTK were when I was just messing around. Creativity is rarely useful in meaningful progression.

      More traditional metroidvanias (including traditional Zelda’s) give you bits of “huh I don’t think I can get there now but clearly I’ll have some way to get there later” and “I just got this thing I wonder what I can do with it”. That kind of puzzle solving is completely absent from many newer Zeldas (BOTW, TOTK, ALBW).

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    I think Gears of War would have been better if the Locust had turned out to be humans mutated through imulsion exposure.

    It would make sense to me because the Lambent are imulsion-infused Locust, and they look more Locust than the Locust. Anyway, that’s what I thought Gears2 hinted at, at the time

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    Sonic and Dr. Robotnik are codependent. They don’t actually want to defeat each other. That’s why Robotnik is always building these elaborate bases that, for some reason, have a bunch of perfectly Sonic-sized tubes for getting around in. And it’s why there’s always that moment at the end where Sonic is chasing Robotnik but doesn’t catch him.

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      This is true for a lot of hero villain combos. Batman and Joker come to mind immediately.

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    Convenience is a bad thing. Or, at the very least, convenience isn’t useful while inconvenience is.

    The most recent discussion about it is about pause buttons; having a pause button isn’t bad, but it doesn’t add anything while being unable to pause can. Fast travel is a classic, it stomps over gameplay and enables bad design from developers, it’s actively detrimental to many games. Weapon degradation is another big point in favor of inconvenience; when done well it gives a steady resource sink and forces you to plan ahead.

    The obsessive need for everything to be quick and convenient is down right counter to the very idea of a video game and over stimmed children need to chill out.

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      I agree with the fast travel but not the pause. There has to be a pause. Stuff happens in real life. What if you get a phone call, someone rings the doorbell or you have to take a shit? Unless you’re doing really basic quick stuff like a sudoku puzzle or an online match that only lasts a few minutes, or playing a really really slow game, that’s just not reasonable. It may not be realistic to have a pause function as we don’t have a pause in real life but sometimes liberties have to be taken be taken to make it more accessible to people.

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      having a pause button isn’t bad, but it doesn’t add anything while being unable to pause can

      I was playing a game recently and was fighting a boss whose gimmick was controlling time. I paused the game and the boss quipped at me and then unpaused the game. It was impressive and amusing in the moment, but very quickly became an issue of “no seriously, I need to be able to pause”.

      If work calls, someone knocks on my door, or my cat knocks something over I need to be able to set the game aside and not have it demand my attention. Having pause doesn’t add anything because we’ve become accustomed to it, not having pause is noticeable because it subtracts, not because it adds. I’ve never had a gameplay experience that would have been better by not having pause available to me.

      Gameplay should be about overcoming challenges, not overcoming inconvenience. If my equipment degrading just means I need to stop playing the game for 5 minutes to do the digital chores of collecting wood and stone that is not adding to the experience, it is just padding the playtime.

      When World of Warcraft removed portals to “make the world feel big,” which ultimately results in players pointing their flying mount in a direction and waiting longer to get somewhere that doesn’t improve the game. It is ultimately a design problem, but the fault is not in the convenience tools, it’s in the lack of meaningful gameplay without them.

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    Like for example. I genuinely like Wakka from Final Fantasy X and think he’s a great character with a lot of development. He has a genuine albeit misguided reason to hate the people he does given his situation, his firm beliefs in Yevon and to not spoil an over a decade old game his brother’s death.

    Plus he has a great character development point throughout the game that lessons his hate towards the Al bhed and even sees him developing a genuine friendship with Rikku and the other Al Bhed to some degree

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      I forget that people hate Wakka. Not every character needs to be a paragon of justice. It’s interesting because he’s such a hopeful character, but also hateful.

      A+ pick.

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        And it’s further backed up by the change you can see in him when he learns the WHOLE truth and how he does a 180 as a character.

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    Most games have a terrible story that merely serve as plot points to give context to what’s happening. The lore and world building is usually pretty good but story rarely is better than ‘ok’

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    • Breath of the Wild was a bad Zelda game. Not bad as a game in general, but terrible as a Zelda game. Apparently, people have told me this is a hot take.

    • I actually don’t mind gacha games with microtransactions as long as the gameplay is good and the game is free to play. I really like Super Mecha Champions and Zenless Zone Zero currently.

    • Xenoblade Chronicles 2 is a snoozefest to play. People always tell me to play it and how good it is but the auto-battler combat where the characters have bark lines for literally every action they take in a second is just not for me.

    • Command & Conquer Generals: Zero Hour is the best C&C excluding the Red Alert games. No, I won’t argue with you, and no, I won’t change my mind.

    • Metroid Other M wasn’t actually that bad. Yes, the cutscenes were long and the game was pretty linear (just like Metroid Fusion and Dread, honestly), and yes, I can see why certain people would be mad about certain plot points, but the game was not literally Hitler. It was a very fun action game, and what is crazy is that the gameplay was equally as fun to watch someone else play it. The pixel hunts were kinda annoying because of the way they were forced, and I do wish it had analog controller support, but at the end of the day I still think it was a pretty fun game to play.

    • Call of Duty Infinite actually had a fun campaign. Granted, the last CoD I played before it was World At War, but I actually really liked the campaign. I liked the structure of being in a spaceship and choosing the missions I wanted to do.

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      Absolutely agree about BotW. I’m barely getting into it (only 800 more korok seeds to go…), and I really enjoy it as a game, but it feels more like a great game set in Hyrule than it does a Zelda game. I think they strayed a bit too far from the formula on it. I miss going into a temple, finding a bunch of stuff I can’t do anything with, getting an item, using that item to solve all the puzzles I couldn’t do anything about, then using the skills that gave me to beat the boss with that item. I miss permanent items that are given incrementally and give a feeling of progression as more of the world opens up to you as a result. BotW feels like it gave me all my items at the beginning, handed me an open world, and said, “Have fun.”

      I am having fun. Just not Zelda fun.

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        I am having fun. Just not Zelda fun.

        The problem I have is that it just makes me want to play a Zelda game. It would probably be fun without the Zelda skin but as it is it just reminds me of a game I would rather be playing.

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        Honestly just in general BotW was so amazing when it came out because it really was this break in formulaic gameplay that was really needed, but as soon as you complete a casual campaign or two it wears thin as the flaws start setting in. Seeing TotK really focuses hard on those flaws while also spelling out a future of even more formulaic games than ever before. Considering that Eiji Aonuma hinted that TotK is the baseline for future Zelda games, it seems clear that they’re falling in the exact same trap as they did with OoT, the trap that he acknowledges in that same interview. It kind of feels dooming for the future of the mainline Zelda, since we already see the flaws of this style very early on.

        Super hyped for Echoes of Wisdom though. That one looks like it could be fun if executed well.

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      Depends, just the base game or with all the DLCs? The DLCs are some of the best in the series, but the base game is about as enjoyable as fucking a fleshlight with glass shards in it. With the DLC I’d put it just above DS3 because you still need to suffer the base game to play them.

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      I find dark souls 3 successfully condensed down the mechanics and gameplay of the souls games but delivered nothing in terms of exploration and world building.

      The lore is DS2 is very good but the gameplay feels so horrendously unpolished and a lot of enemy placement feels really bad.

      If I could play ds2 with ds3 gameplay it would potentially be able to rival the first half of DS1 for me

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        the enemy placement isn’t exactly amazing in vanilla but it is atrocious in scholar of the first sin. which one did you play?

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          Everything up to the lord vessel. Your goals and fast travel completely changes how you play the game and the new areas are less interesting imo

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      I don’t know if I’d go as far with my personal tastes, but I know for sure ds3 makes me stressed out. I think the combat system is far too fast and roll centric to be enjoyable to me. DS2 is just a nice adventure and sometimes I need that despite its flaws.

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        As a piece of art ds2 does some questionable things, but as a game it is a lot of fun to play and has a lot of replayability.

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    Hello Games’s release of No Man’s Sky was a massive gamble that was more likely to fail than not. They shouldn’t have been forgiven for the false advertising and broken promises. Half the gaming industry seems to have gotten the idea that it’s okay to release a half-baked mess for $30-$70 and then maybe fix it later.

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      Spicy, I like it. On one hand, that’s all true. On the other hand, we rarely get games that are even as good as No Man’s Sky is now.

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        On the other hand, we rarely get games that are even as good as No Man’s Sky is now.

        I liked the original pitch where you were supposed to be exploring this strange, empty, hostile galaxy. Now it feels like the game just got turned into Fortnite in space. I don’t want to need a base or anything.

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    Calling your own take a hot take is premature. A take being hot requires it to make other people take notice and agree. If it’s your own take you’re sharing, that hasn’t happened yet.

    I think you mean what are your unpopular opinions related to game plots/characters.

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      Hot take means something else here. In common usage usually only the first half applies, that is, “piece of deliberately provocative commentary”

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    Cloud drags Final Fantasy VII (OG) down. He’s the least interesting playable character and his amnesia subplot overstays its welcome.

    Also, Cait Sith is the best character.

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      I’d say I agree to a point. I think Cloud is what makes the storyline what it is, but at the same time. I’d agree that his character could’ve been fleshed out a bit more in a lot of ways. Especially in his relationships with Aerith, Sephiroth and Zack.

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        I guess I never cared for the main plot much either. For me the characters are the best part of the game. They make the story. Heck, a lot of the game is exploring their individual stories that aren’t connected to the overall plot.

        As opposed to FVIII where the main plot is everything and rarely involves the side characters.

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    Ghost of Tsushima is one of the most overrated games of all time. It’s a perfectly fine experience carried by solid combat and high polish, but far from being one of the best games of all time. The writing and acting is monotonously dour and the quest design is uninspiring, which wears you out because the game is also way too long for what little variety it offers. The open world is also your bland, boring, garden variety Ubisoft style.

    Romances in BG3 are poorly written and realized and detract from the quality of the game. BG3 in general is merely “fine for a video game” in terms of writing. People also let the game get away with murder in terms of how much it falls apart in the third act.

    Cyberpunk 2077 - despite all its flaws - is CDPR’s best game.

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      Meanwhile the Sly Cooper series was among the best games, for the man hours they sunk into Ghosts they could have made have made the most amazing Sly 5

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      Agree about the romances in BG3, they feel pretty shallow. While I can maybe see your point about the writing in general what I think makes BG3 great is that it felt like playing tabletop dnd. New bad guys every week, silly fights and absurd coincidence, maps with minimal markers and characters that are there for the party to use to progress as heros (biggest thing to me that didn’t feel like tabletop dnd was having to loot every box VS just saying I searched the room).

      Haven’t played other CDPR games. Guess I don’t need to bother lol.