• BigBrainBrett2517@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    16 days ago

    How can it spread germs if the germs are 99% gone after having washed your hands with soap? We’re assuming people aren’t washing their hands properly, right?

      • GiveMemes@jlai.luEnglish
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        16 days ago

        Which is accurate. How often have you seen somebody spend 30 seconds washing their hands in a public restroom? For me it ain’t exactly common

        • LandedGentry@lemmy.zipEnglish
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          15 days ago

          If most people even did 5-10 good seconds with soap it’d be good enough but yeah people are nasty

          • Jose A Lerma@lemmy.worldEnglish
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            15 days ago

            There are too many people that think rinsing hands with water is enough, or that using a urinal doesn’t need hand rinsing much less washing.

            Even post-COVID, habits are too hard to break

        • bluewing@lemm.eeEnglish
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          15 days ago

          I wash my hands for nearly a minute. But most of that time is spent trying to get those stupid no touch faucets to work.

    • HowManyNimons@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      16 days ago

      Some microbes will survive the hand washing process, and need to be removed by drying. Those Dyson air blades collect germs from water from washed hands and the toilet environment, then blow the germs around. It’s gross.

      Also, Mr Dyson is a fucking dick.

      • CeruleanRuin@lemmings.worldEnglish
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        15 days ago

        If those dryers had UV lamps, maybe one that only ran when external motion sensors detected nobody nearby, that could mitigate that problem entirely

  • oldfart@lemm.eeEnglish
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    16 days ago

    It sucks that the only device that works spreads germs. Will humanity ever find a hand drying method that not only dries hands but is also safe?

    • IhaveCrabs111@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      16 days ago

      I thought it was the dumb ass shape of them and how it just mists and sprays the bacteria on and off the walls. The old ones were fine. Point it straight down. Who cares if a couple of drops touch the ground

        • blubfisch@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
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          16 days ago

          That is such an american problem 😵‍💫. Reducing trash is a great motivation, but the reminder that the trash is just dumped and stored indefinitely over there just makes me want to scream.

            • bluewing@lemm.eeEnglish
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              16 days ago

              They often are partially recycled material. But recycled paper isn’t like recycling aluminum or steel. There are limits to how often and how much of the cycled material you can add back to make useful paper products.

              But paper towels can and does make great compost as most gardeners know. And a properly run landfill is a compost pile. But you need to keep the nasty garbage out.

          • spacesatan@leminal.spaceEnglish
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            15 days ago

            It’s a non-issue. Landfills are a negligible amount of land usage and the land can be repurposed after the landfill is decommissioned. I genuinely don’t get why people care.

            • blubfisch@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
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              15 days ago

              Because the landfills produce methane, a greenhouse gas much more potent than CO2. Once a landfill is closed, the methane can mostly be caught. There are always leaks, however. Containing the methane and other problems creates forever-costs. Recycling as much as possible and burning the rest, greatly reduces the problem. Remaining ash from burning still needs to be stored, but has less volume. And while burning trash does produce CO2, the energy is used for electricity and communal heating.

      • oldfart@lemm.eeEnglish
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        15 days ago

        The strong bleached ones which pollute the environment or the brown ones which tear apart on wet skin and you have to pluck pieces of them from between hair on your hand?

        • Halosheep@lemm.eeEnglish
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          15 days ago

          I was about to ask how much hair you have on your hand but then i saw your username…

    • Agent641@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      16 days ago

      Machine should have a “blow” vent above a “suck” vent with a drip tray that drains away. Any air that passes in close contact with the heating element would be sterilized.

  • riodoro1@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    16 days ago

    It’s insane we keep using those things after covid. They’re fucking disgusting.

  • ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
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    16 days ago

    I can’t fathom how those dyson piece of shit blade hand dryers were chosen at so many places instead of like a Columbia Vortex.

    Those nasty ass dysons near guarantee you touch the inside of them, all while misting water back up towards your face.

    • thejml@lemm.eeEnglish
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      16 days ago

      I always have to imagine I’m playing Operation and it’s going to buzz and light up a red light over my head if I bump the sides.

  • Scary le Poo@beehaw.orgEnglish
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    16 days ago

    This has been debunked btw. Fwiw, there is a huge behind the scenes fight between big towel and big airblow.

    I’m not kidding. But basically drying via air is much more hygienic in actuality.

      • filcuk@lemmy.zipEnglish
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        16 days ago

        Trouble is a lot of people are gross and will do the wroom wroom to make people think they washed their hands, or just wash poorly in the first place.

  • blind3rdeye@lemm.eeEnglish
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    16 days ago

    I just wish people would know how to use paper towels so that they don’t end up wasting huge piles of them for nothing. 1 sheet is enough. You don’t need 5. Do it like this:

    • After washing your hands, brush excess water off each hand using your other hand. Your hands should not be dripping wet when you reach for the paper towel.
    • Take a single paper towel. Don’t scrunch it up, and don’t just clasp the towel. Use all parts of the paper towel to deliberately wipe your hands. The paper towels are quite absorbent. They don’t need to be 100% dry to remove the water from your hands.

    The end. If you do this, your hands will not be wet. You will not need a second paper towel.

    • sem@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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      16 days ago

      You missed something. You gotta fold the paper in half. The capillary action will trap more water in between the folded halves than it could unfolded.

      The Shake & Fold method. There was a Ted Talk!

      • blind3rdeye@lemm.eeEnglish
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        16 days ago

        Funny joke. But yeah, the creation, distribution, and disposal are not free - even if they are created from trees. Using two sheets isn’t a big deal, but why use double what you need?

        Anyway, I’m not trying to say we need to be super-frugal with our paper towels. I’m really talking about people who just keep grabbing more and more of them until their hands are dry. I’m sure we’ve all seen bins overflowing with barely-used paper towels. We don’t need that.

  • Korne127@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    16 days ago

    Funnily, that’s not really true. Such studies showing that exist but are sponsored by… paper towel companies

    • Karjalan@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      15 days ago

      Fucking dystopian late stage capitalism… Every fact is not actually a fact cause it’s sponsored by corporate interests

        • CeruleanRuin@lemmings.worldEnglish
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          15 days ago

          I tell my phone to “Remove Suggestion” on that every time, but it never fucking takes and it pisses me off. Don’t capitalist twitter or god.

    • GiveMemes@jlai.luEnglish
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      16 days ago

      Yes, and the ones that show air dryers to be healthier are funded by… hand dryer manufacturers.

  • omega_x3@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    16 days ago

    Why are there germs on your hands right after washing them? Didn’t mythbusters already test it and concluded that they are only bad when people don’t really wash their hands.

    • psud@aussie.zoneEnglish
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      16 days ago

      Do you ever watch people wash their hands? Many wet them then dry them. A few rub a little soap around them. Nearly no one does the full hand wash method recommended by health organisations (where each finger is individually washed)

      • FarceOfWill@infosec.pubEnglish
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        15 days ago

        To be fair they probably didn’t rub each individual finger over their disgusting body parts while in the toilet.

    • Bassman1805@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      16 days ago

      Yes.

      The followup question is “how many people think getting their hands wet without soap is sufficient hand-washing” and the answer is not terribly comforting.

  • zephorah@lemm.eeEnglish
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    16 days ago

    My biggest issue is the decibel level. I can hear, for now, but the decibel level on those things makes one of my ears feel like it’s being blasted out of my skull and induces ringing.

    I use the paper because it doesn’t hurt my ear.

    Yes, I’ve seen a doctor, it simply is what it is and my only recourse for that ear is to wear ear protection. In any public restroom, apparently.

    • Trainguyrom@reddthat.comEnglish
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      16 days ago

      My daughter is extremely noise sensitive and can’t handle the noise of those either. After a really rough 2 hour drive involving 3 gas station stops because she refused to even try to use one due to the auto-flushing toilet my wife suggested “making an app to track public bathrooms with air dryers and autoflushing toilets” and I’ve been debating if I want to start tagging every public bathroom I visit on Open Street Map with the toilet flush mechanism and existence of air dryers. And if i did so I’d probably also mark what changing table amenities are available and if there’s more/less changing table amenities in the womens’ or mens’ rooms.

      • zephorah@lemm.eeEnglish
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        16 days ago

        You can buy boxes of moldable foam earplugs which can do very well for noise blocking. Individually wrapped in pairs. They carry well in a back pocket. Those work if you’re ok with the sensation of something in your ears, don’t have ear tubes, or some other contraindicated condition.

        An aesthetically pleasing pair of full muffs can also work. Sometimes kids need their environment dimmed, and the muffs can work rather well.

        • Trainguyrom@reddthat.comEnglish
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          15 days ago

          We actually already have hearing protection headphones for the kids, but they’re bulky and I usually don’t want to risk them getting messed up in the bathroom on a trip

          We try to balance both giving her the tools to be successful but also not having her entirely rely on the hearing protection as a crutch

    • Delzur@vegantheoryclub.orgEnglish
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      16 days ago

      They absolutely are loud. I avoir them as much as possible even though I don’t have ear issues (yet, I gguess)