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    To confused people exploring from all Communities trying to understand what the hell is going on:

    • Bethesda is a game studio who does a decent job of giving people choice to do/be whatever they want in their games. Out of the box they included the option to choose your pronouns in a new game called “Starfield”.
    • They also make it possible to modify their games to make very drastic changes to the player experience.
    • Nexus is a site that hosts thousands of mods to all sorts of games. People make mods, upload them to Nexus and players download them.
    • Someone made a mod to remove the option to choose pronouns from Starfield.
    • Nexus decided they don’t want to host this mod. It’s hurtful to people and goes against their values of inclusivity.

    That’s about it. Most of the people whinging about censorship don’t even play the game. They’re just here to whinge about how the world is moving on from old bigoted ways and they want to stay in the past and be jerks to people for merely existing. If they actually cared, they’d just download the mod from some other site. The mod itself is probably not much bigger than this reply.

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    Moderation exists to identify and exclude people who are being absolute cocks.

    You don’t need any grand philosophical statement about values. You don’t need to defend the paradox of tolerance against absolutist demands for unrestricted expression. It’s perfectly fine to say: you were doing some diet Nazi shit, that’s awful, fuck off.

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    This is all fine and well, but am I the only one a bit concerned about how NexusMods is practically a monopoly in the modding scene? Why does literally every modder have to use a rate-limiting host as a platform, especially when Github exists?

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      Well, for one thing, Nexus gives modders a share of ad revenue. Under a different name, I have a mod that’s a backend requirement for a big, popular mod, and that nets me a reliable few bucks a month.

      That said, a good portion of the modding community also exists on Gamebanana. If you want BotW, ToTK or Source engine mods, GB is the go-to.

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        Wait I have a stupid subscription to nexus and idk why I haven’t canceled it (used it for one month for some mod back in the day). I use nexus for all mods. Should I keep my sub then because all I care about is modders getting something.

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            The lifetime access was such a good investment. I missed a lot of other lifetime subscriptions, and am glad I get such great download speed.

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          Well, if you’re paying for premium, you’re still part of the site’s profit, part of which goes to the mods you use, so either way shouldn’t matter.

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      I mean, github does exist. It looks like people just prefer platforms with a pre-existing community.

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        Mods uploaded to github does really suck for discoverability though. There’s the roguelike Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead. The modding scene exists entirely on Github and you’d basically never find them unless you go searching for mods on their Discord channel.

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        That’s even worse though. Plenty of games (e.g. Stellaris and RimWorld) are also available on platforms like GOG or, ugh, Epic. But if you want to use mods and you bought the game on any platform other than Steam it’s fuck you.

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            I know it is, developers can block downloads unless the user is signed into a Steam account that owns the game. But as an end-user that’s distinction without difference.

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          I know there are workarounds, but this is true. There are very little games I buy (at least directly) through steam nowadays, because I didn’t like what it became after the Greenlight/Direct debacle and I didn’t want my library to be that dependent of them anymore.

          I have playnite as a unified game library launcher (with GoG, itch.io, humble, Ubi, EA, even Amazon Prime and freaking EGS just for the free games), so where I get my games from doesn’t matter much for me now.

          But workshop integration is basically the only thing that makes me want a Steam copy for a game.

          Though among the games in that case, there were Rimworld and Dwarf Fortress, and for both if you get a copy directly from the developers, you get DRM-free and a Steam key. So, that’s what I did.

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        I don’t think that term really applies here. It’s not like the barrier to entry for a webservice hosting game modification data is all that high. It’s very different from the railway, waterworks and power grid markets.

        Also there are at least the competitors Loverslab, Curseforge, ModMD and Modrinth from the top of my head.

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          Network effect creates barriers to new competitors, regardless of quality. Either for the upstarts or the leaders. See: Twitter. Once some choice is the default, anything else faces an uphill battle.

          Adoption is a feature you can’t design.

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          Does any one of those integrate with Mod Organizer or do I have to download the mod (often also with an annoying wait time) and then point Mod Organizer to it. Do they have an API that enables “a new version is out” notifications, or do I have to hunt everything down manually.

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        I remember using ModDB back then, I’m shocked that they have never updated their site since then

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      That went so well until your proposed alternative was Microsoft.

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        I know what Microsoft’s general reputation is, but it’s undeniable that GitHub has only seen improvements since Microsoft acquired it.

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            That only makes sense if Microsoft had a GotHub competitor lol. I think it was more about getting that juicy data and making copilot.

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        At least github is easier than the shit that is nexusmods

        Also there are alternatives

        Gitlab… sourceforge…

        Ive downloaded a lot of mods from sourceforge over the years

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        Yeah, an alternative using git would be good probably, but maybe don’t use github. Preferably though, it’d be agnostic and just target some git repo anywhere. It’d pull from a description file for the page to ensure a uniform appearance preferably, and it’d show and manage versions from some uniformly named folder on the repo.

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      There’s also steam workshop. Neither are shining examples of a free modding community. I think nexus mods starting out better and slowly enshittified but I don’t know the extent of it.

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        Nexus hasn’t changed much over the years. They just make a new mod tool every few years it feels like lol.

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      I think it’s just the internet being the internet. Or at least how it’s been for awhile. There are big sites that a lot of people crowd to and that becomes the default. Like auctioning things off online. Ebay. That was where everyone went to. Need to order a few different things online? Amazon. Are there other online stores? Plenty. But Amazon is seen as cheap and convenient.

      Nexus mods is just the popular site, but the moders have other options.

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      We don’t. My ultrawide mods get thousands of downloads and I haven’t uploaded a single one to Nexus.

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      That’s kinda like saying PlanetMinecraft monopolized sharing world’s, isn’t it?

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      There’s stuff like Curseforge, but it’s only for some games, mostly Minecraft. The problem, if someone considers it a problem, is really that communities for games generally centralize around one site for their mods for the most part, and Nexus has garnered a lot of trust and therefore has more pull/inertia for communities working those things out.

      As for Github, I believe the vast majority of mods have Github pages, but Github itself doesn’t really have a UI suited for mod downloaders, and no real incentive to implement one. So sites like Nexus and Curseforge are still a necessity.

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      I was really hoping thunderstore and mod.io would take off more since they seem more platform-agnostic and FOSS-like with their integration with git and versioning (and for some games they have), but people just prefer convenience of nexusmods and steam workshop unfortunately. They just have a bigger community and better discoverability in the end

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      Nexus has the lions share, but only for some games, I had a premium subscription but still found for like half the games I mod that nexus either didn’t have a modpage for them or that most modders for that game used other sites to host their mods

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      R2Modman and thunderstore.io has grown it’s catalogue quite a bit as of late, but it’s mostly (don’t know if it’s entirely or not) unity games. It’s my favorite modding platform with features that make sharing modlists for multiplayer a breeze.

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      Their rate-limiting isn’t bad at all, their integration into everything is excellent, and for games without much of a community Vortex is often the only mod manager. Their API isn’t closed down, so Mod Organiser can integrate with Nexus just as well, and they probably would also do it with other mod sites if those ever bothered to set up a version check etc. API. They have an excellent search function.

      In short: They provide a good service. Like the most annoying part about Nexus as a freeloader is the five or what seconds wait before your mod manager picks up the download.

      And, no, their rate limiting really isn’t bad. 1.5MB/s for people with adblock, 3MB/s for people without. How often do you download gigabytes worth of mods it’s not like they’re bullying you into a subscription.

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        But any rate-limit is worse than no rate-limit. GitHub exists and can provide the same features in a better manner with no limits whatsoever.

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          Github has other ways to make money, and Microsoft capital to back up everything. And granted Nexus could use a better bug tracker, but you won’t see them getting into the private repository business any time soon.

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        Not really sure curseforge is better. Its another of those sites with an sketchy bloaty overwolf launcher that makes you jump through hoops to load mods onto a server. It’s concerningly hard to avoid overwolf in modding

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          Yeah no question Curseforge ain’t great and if you want to get a modpack as opposed to a singular mod you get kind of screwed by the launcher.

          Thing is, the alternatives tend to suck more. Plus my point was that Nexus ain’t alone.

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    I swear to god, every time i hear about conservatives getting upset about gay and trans rights I’m more convinced it’s projection. They want to have the freedom to follow their own preferences but have been taught by someone in their family and/or society that certain preferences are completely unacceptable. Rather than go against the grain, they lean into the hate side of it. “If i can’t have that, you sure as hell can’t–and if you do, you’re gonna pay dearly” seems to be the philosophy. All this because they want to explore their sexuality but they decided the social price is too much. Not allowed to have what they crave, now they just scorn those that are brave enough to face the storm they themselves avoided…or they just hate people having freedom. Probably both.

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      You’re overthinking it.

      Conservatives don’t believe things. Conservatives believe people.

      Their stated ideals are ad-hoc justifications. All that has ever mattered is ingroup loyalty. Reality itself is defined by interpersonal trust. What’s true today is simply dictated by people above you in The Hierarchy, and your job is to make whatever mouth noises justify them. If they weren’t right and better and handsome then obviously they wouldn’t belong in that high position. It is impossible for someone to simply be wrong. That would require an objective means of evaluating claims. In their worldview, that is not what claims are for.

      This constant quest for logical explanations is a category error. Logic is not what they’re doing. They think the whole world runs on who-says. Like if they get their guy to be the head scientist, he could make the sun go around the Earth.

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      It’s only anecdotal, but a lot of the people I know who were hateful like that while growing up actually did come out as LGBTQ+. Some were trans, some were gay, some were bi, etc.

      Some of them are just a-holes though. One dude complained about a gay classmate. He never liked it when I asked him why he was thinking about what the other guy was doing with his bits so much. I’ve always thouht it was a fair question. I never did get an answer, though.

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      The thing is it’s only just tangentially related to trans rights. I mean they’re making a character creation screen and they do need to know what pronouns to refer to the character as in game dialog as the player is playing it. So they need to know that for the game to work.

      These fools seem to want Bethesda to add logic to restrict the pronouns on the character creation screen. So it’s not that they’re angry that Bethesda made an effort to be inclusive. They’re angry that Bethesda didn’t put in an effort to explicitly exclude trans people.

      That and I think they’re just generally triggered over the word “pronoun.” Triggered by words that describe words. There’s something very wrong with these people.

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      Whenever you hear a conservative complaining about anything at all, it’s always projection/admission or both.

      “They’re rigging the elections,”

      “They’re gonna riot if Biden doesn’t win,”

      “They’re running pedophile rings under their favorite pizza parlor,”

      I could go on.

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      I think they want what trans, gay, lesbians, etc have. In terms of resources, jobs, money, social contacts. So, just like it happened with religion, they highlight the difference between you and them. Tribes created. Now it’s a Us against Them where them are different, so not human, inferior. If they are not human we can do whatever we want to them. And the rights start to be eroded. People arrested. We can go further down the line but you know what happens. The Them get eliminated and the Us get the resources. We’ve seen this happen for ages.

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      Have you read Terry Pratchetts book Thud? It touches on that briefly. For what its worth i agree with you. Nothing else makes sense. Especially when so many vocal homophobes get caught having same-sex fun.

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    Considering their policy doesn’t allow for other stuff like this, yeah I am not surprised.

    Content that may be generally construed as provocative, divisive, objectionable, discriminatory, or abusive toward any real-world individual or group, may be subject to moderation. This includes but is not limited to content involving politics, race, religion, gender identity, sexuality, or social class. We tolerate content related to real world issues and events as long as the appropriate tag (“Real World Issues”) is used and the content is handled in a tasteful, respectful, and non-inflammatory manner. Users who do not wish to see such content should make use of our content blocking feature.

    Reminds me of the time when a Spiderman mod removed the VERY few instances of a pride flag in a recreation of NEW YORK CITY and a Skyrim mod that removed any potential gay romances that only occur when wearing a very specific amulet (including a single dead skeleton couple off the beaten path.)

    Those got booted as well cause…come on now. Its blatantly targeting a group of people about their sexuality and gender who have BARELY any presence to begin with in these games.

    Starfield is even more egregious as its LITERALLY just a menu option and the rare use in dialogue…

    Really pathetic and sad people would even feel the need to make them to begin with. Let alone feel the need to upload them to a platform.

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      funny to read that when trans actually lost their mind. there’s no way I would call this ugly dude with bad makeup and wonderbra a ‘she’.

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    Does anyone even install these mods or do they just exist for people to get outraged at?

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      I would imagine a bare handful of people install them.

      There’s some number of people who are so angry and stupid that the mere sight of something like an option to choose pronouns fills them with blind, seething rage, so for them, mods like this are essentially QOL improvements.

      More’s the pity…

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        option to choose pronouns fills them with blind, seething rage

        Yeah I was there when BATTLETECH (still dunno why its name has to be so LOUD :P ) launched. Every hatefool was raging about it, apropos of anything or nothing. Try to talk about any part of it and it’s “OH YOU MEAN FUCKING PRONOUNWARRIOR?!?!” and a bunch of incoherent senseless bile. There’s a sizeable group of people who deeply love being offended, and it’s not us (queerfolk/LGBTQIA+/QUILTBAG/GSM/whatever). Like, I’m neck-deep in queer over here and every time I play a game with a pronoun selector at the beginning I promptly forget about it but oohhhh nooo, not these bellends. They somehow think a button at the beginning of the game that matters like three times ever has entirely DESTROYED videogames with LIES and FALLACIES 🙄

        They’d be a joke and an insignificant oddity if they didn’t deliberately make messes of everything else (say, going to MWLL/other games, ranting about “pronounwarrior,” pretty sure some critters got teamkilled over it…) for no good reason.

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          They’d be a joke and an insignificant oddity if they didn’t deliberately make messes of everything else

          My opinion exactly.

          In ways, I actually feel sorry for them. In the first place, it has to suck just to be that angry and spiteful, but underneath that, it must really suck to feel so powerless and desperate and insecure that something as trivial and irrelevant as pronouns can send you into a compensatory rage.

          My pity is greatly diminished by the fact that they’re toxic assholes who try to force the world to accommodate their own failures though.

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          Wait, Battletech? The turn based one? From 2018?

          That’s amusing. I played that a couple months ago. I don’t recall ever selecting a pronoun, but I’m sure I did and then just moved on like a normal person.

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          Meanwhile, my canonically enby commander is rocking a fabulous magenta mohawk and having fun headshotting all the King Crabs so they can sell them to afford catperson surgery.

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              I’m not hunting them specifically, their cockpits just happen to be magnets for my Marauder’s laser and autocannon rounds. :P

              The first one I saw, in an early “titan” mission, got taken out by a single alpha strike from long range and dropped three salvage. (I renamed it Queen Crab when I noticed that some parts of the mech were white after applying my blue/pink paint scheme.)

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          I just cannot get over what a terrible name “quiltbag” is. How do you say that out loud and not immediately think better of it?

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            Well, it’s… pronounceable? Technically?

            Okay I don’t actually like it and don’t know anycritter who does but it’s there soooo putting it there seemed like a good idea at the time? 🤷

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        I’ve seen that in videos, but I always assumed it was for show to get their viewers riled up. I honestly can’t imagine an actual person doing this on their own, unless they were encouraged to do it by some influencer.

        As in, how many people fire up a game, get mad that pronouns exist, and then search online for a “fix”? I think that number is pretty small.

        But then again, I tend to be pretty careful about distancing myself from bigots.

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      I can see someone with a modlist with 252 mods in it adding one just to max it out, and a plugin like this wouldnt conflict with much.

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    How are these people not seeing that they are actively trying to censor shit with the shyte excuse “keep politics out of my games”, and then turn around and yell censorship as soon as people ignore their bigoted crap.

    You don’t need to answer, it’s rhetorical.

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    Incredibly petty mod to make in the first place, so Nexus might as well be petty too and remove it.

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      Where do you live, Iran? Also the mod doesn’t impinge on your ability to express yourself. Not sure how that relates to being afraid in a game.

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        This mod “impinge” on NexusMod’s rights, it’s their private service and they have the right to set conditions on it. One of which, mods cannot remove diversity.

        It’s as simple as that. The people can go elsewhere to find the same mod or share it among themselves.

        As for Iran statement, are you serious? There are people getting murdered in USA for even being non-binary. Even “binary” people are getting shot for being inclusive. Like this one https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/21/us/california-pride-flag-shooting/index.html

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        Let me guess, you don’t have any trans friends. Probably don’t have any gay friends, either.

        I know no fewer than 5 people who have been physically assaulted over their sexuality or their gender identity. My local pro-LGBTQ church was vandalized by people who left messages about how god hates them.

        You deserve all those downvotes you’re complaining about if you really believe that non-binary people in the Western world aren’t reasonably afraid to express their gender.

        And as for “how it relates to…a game”. Can you imagine being Jewish and a bunch of pro-nazi mods made it to the frontpage of your favorite game? Can you imagine if then everyone started bitching because the site took those hateful mods down?

        Games, as online communities, are used to “innocently” draw people towards extreme beliefs.

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    Nowadays everything seems newsworthy… I would not be mad about it if Bethesda did not include a pronoun setting, i am not mad someone made a mod to remove said option, i am not mad nexus keeping its sovereignty to decide what they host…

    What is everyone mad about? Just let ppl do whatever they do.

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    They finally give you something that controls how people refer to you in their games, and dipshits wanna remove it? This is as close as you’re going to get to having characters refer to you as a choice you’ve taken other than Codsworth and Vasco having like 1000 generic names recorded to use.

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      Does it even affect dialogue? The PC is hardly ever referred to with pronouns, actually I can’t remember a single line.

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        They definitely use your pronouns a lot. It’s all they refer to you as, aside from cute nicknames like “Dusty,” or “rook” or “renegade.” Probably doesn’t stand out if you chose your normal pronouns, since they’d just be say he/him or she/her or they/them.

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          Heh, I like how the enemies are considerate enough to figure out and use the correct pronouns mid-battle

          Hey, you! What are your pronouns? … Thanks, now eat lead!

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      We can’t be far from text-to-speech tweaking a ton of voice acting. Might have to pronounce or IPA your custom name, to get an AI voice to nail it… but maybe it’s better-off being wrong. There’s disarming verisimilitude in schmaltzy NPCs confidently fumbling your character’s name. Or if some characters heard it, but haven’t seen it, and you catch some mutter ‘so that’s how it’s spelled.’

      Whether that name is Paarthurnax, Heloise, or Ng.

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      I mean, I sorta get it. Identity politics are political and often divisive, and some people don’t want it in their escapism.
      It’s not a perfect analogy, but if a role-playing game had a mandatory character-selection choice to choose if my character was pro-choice or pro-life, I could see myself mildly resenting it.

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        Not really a good example. A more apt example is if these people were getting angry that the character creator allowed a player to create a woman, or a person of colour. The game offering you a choice of pronouns is not asking you for a political opinion, it’s literally just an option to create a type of character that these people don’t think should exist.

        And that’s the crux of it, they aren’t angry about pronouns, they’re angry about trans and non-binary people becoming normalised.

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          I dunno, being a man, woman, or black person isn’t political. Trans, non-binary, etc is, and normalizing it is political, regardless of if it’s right or wrong. I think that you’re correct and that it seems like something done as ammunition in the Culture War; normalizing identity politics rather than a design decision done out of a necessity to improve the quality of the game apart from that.

          My earlier analogy was about having a pro-life/pro-choice option forced on you, but I guess to make it more accurate it would be more like the game just telling you that you’re pro-life as part of your character settings? Because it’s not just putting the politics in the game, it’s taking a strong side. Again, rightly or wrongly, I can see why some people would reset that in their escapism.

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            I guess my existence is “political” then, I guess I can’t exist in a space without having something “forced” on people.

            We were male/female, now we’re women/men/other, that’s it. It’s a personal matter that we go through and we want to simply exist. That’s only “political” when your dealing with people who actively want to harm our rights. I cannot stress enough that these people shouldn’t be treated with respect as if they’re not trying to destroy people for a simple personal choice.

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            I dunno, being a man, woman, or black person isn’t political. Trans, non-binary, etc is, and normalizing it is political, regardless of if it’s right or wrong.

            Women and black people getting the right to vote and be treated equally has always been “political” you fucking jackass.

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            Aside from you being transphobic, you should realize that the people complaining about pronouns are also the people who complain about the “replaced white people” and “female leaders” in the game. So I guess black people and women are also political, by your logic?

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            I dunno, being a man, woman, or black person isn’t political.

            I agree, they should not be, but people still try and make them political.

            Trans, non-binary, etc is

            No. Absolutely not. Trans people and non-binary people are types of people who exist. Exactly the same as men, women, people of colour, and so forth. They are no more or less political than those other types of people. People still make them political, but that’s exactly the same thing as with other groups.

            My earlier analogy was about having a pro-life/pro-choice option forced on you, but I guess to make it more accurate it would be more like the game just telling you that you’re pro-life as part of your character settings? Because it’s not just putting the politics in the game, it’s taking a strong side. Again, rightly or wrongly, I can see why some people would reset that in their escapism.

            You are mistaken. There is no political opinion here. None is being asked for, and none is being assigned. The character creator having additional options is just allowing players to make trans or non-binary characters. This isn’t asking you for a political opinion, it’s simply adding options to create more types of characters.

            Which is why the bigots are upset. Because they don’t think those types of characters should be allowed to be made.

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                As are women and people of colour, and their inclusion in media. These are all demographics of people. There is no difference.

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                  There’s no difference between a movie casting a woman/black man as the main character, compared to casting a trans person?

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                Whether or not it should be, isn’t LGBT issues political/controversial?

                Simply acknowledging LGBT exist

                1. isn’t political
                2. helps make it less political
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                  Of course it’s political. Politics aren’t just about things where there can be legitimate disagreement.

                  Acknowledging climate change is political. So is everything from basic public transport, better healthcare to if sexism and racism are even a thing.

                  It shouldn’t be. We also shouldn’t have a resurgence of actual fascists. But we do and it is.

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            being a man, woman, or black person isn’t political

            Being a woman isn’t political… until I do it? Kinda seems like there’s no actually valid (sound? I forget the terminology) argument for how our existence is a problem, nor for how supporting or acknowledging our existence is a problem.

            I don’t actually quite understand what you’re on about but it kinda seems like you’re arguing that allowing people to play characters that don’t match your preferences exactly is some kind of forced political thing and that’s kinda horsecrap, y’know?

            Anyway I’m gonna go exist at that bigot up there now. Byeee ö/

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        Terrible analogy. It’s just turning the binary male / female into non binary body types & pronouns to be more inclusive for those who fall outside the norm on the spectrum of things.

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    I can get behind the whole: “i’m playing games to escape from the world, stop dragging the real world politics into games” sentiment, but!

    I made a trans character in cyberpunk because haha look a penis and boobies, Apparently Diego is now in a gay relationship with Sam…something about Sam and Cora (i find them adoreable, i’m just sad i can’t give her all the books i steal) made me prefer them and…well i’m gay it seems lol.

    Even more layers to roleplaying yay.

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    I used to have a lot of respect for HeelVsBabyface as a content creator back when he did WoW videos. Many of the fanboys who play Blizzard games dismissed him as a whiny bitch when he complained about issues with the game long before other more respected creators (i.e. Bellular, Asmongold, Sodapoppin, Preach) jumped on the very same ‘fuck Blizzard’ bandwagon.

    Watched him a lot less after he branched away from WoW stuff because his content was more anti-woke and not really of my interest.

    His two minute anti-pronoun rant made him look like a clown and was the last straw that made me unsub to his YouTube and unfollow him on X.

    What people like Az seem to forget is that Starfield is set hundreds of years in the future. I can understand why a pronoun selection menu would look out of place in a medieval setting like The Elder Scrolls, but not in a game set 300 years in the future.

    Also, nobody is forcing you to play as a trans or non-binary character.