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    I actually met her once back in the 90s (bojack title song begins) on vacation in DC. She let me and my family into the Senate as observers when we mentioned we were from the Bay Area, which was kinda cool.

    But that was two and a half decades ago. Since then she had gone very senile, and it became evident in recent years that the only thing that’d make her relinquish her position was death. So here we are.

    So: thanks for letting me sit in on the federal legislative process that one time, but holy fuck lady you should have retired a long goddamn time ago.

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        I don’t know how you don’t get it… this is the pinnacle of their careers, the height of their power, and their main source of identity, plus people keep voting them in and their entire staff depends on them for financial stability. They want to stay and everyone they talk to wants them to stay.

        It’s shocking to me that anyone in a safe district retires.

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          It shocks you? My father was a woodworker at the height of his skill with 14 workers under him. He retired at 61, because he could and because he had worked his whole life. How is that shocking to anyone?

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                Same but it also makes complete sense. The rest of us talk about how we would’ve retired a long time ago because for us that means finally relaxing and not working anymore. People like her and Moscow Mitch have already retired decades ago, they’re just still getting paid for walking around and talking. That’s why they don’t leave.

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            That’s the difference, she wasn’t actually doing anything that counts as work by this point. Why would you retire when you can just keep collecting that paycheque for next to no effort?

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              The paycheck was chump change for her, under 175k a year. Her net worth was close to 90 million. It was 100% refusal to let go of power.

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                The point is still the same – she wasn’t “working” so there wasn’t a benefit to retiring.

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        She might not have had that much money. She married a rich guy, but he’s dead and left her with a trust, and some kind of evil stepdaughter situation is going on, that all went public when her bio child sued the trustees on Feinstiens behalf, accusing them of stealing from the trust and elder abuse. Feinstien still should have retired, but she might not be totally loaded.

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      The craziest part about this is that you saw her when she was still at an age that would be considered retirement age…

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      it became evident in recent years that the only thing that’d make her relinquish her position was death. So here we are.

      Ok…so… they way you worded that makes it sound like you murdered her lol…

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      I also had a handful of interactions with her as a student reporter back in the early 90s. She was always very gracious and engaging, but in my experience that’s kind of true of all politicians by definition.

      The one thing that always stood out to me is the way she handled the dual assassination of mayor Moscone and Harvey Milk. I was just a little kid at the time, and the way she stepped up and took control of the situation filled me with admiration and confidence.

      Maybe that was the high-point of her political career, I don’t know.

      That said, you couldn’t be a Northern Californian at that time and not appreciate her leadership, no matter what else you may have disagreed with her about.

      I say all of the above while not touching the obvious fact that she stayed in office far too long.

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    Don’t mean this is a gouache way, but this needed to happen. It really seems like she lost her cognitive abilities a long time ago, and whomever has been keeping after her was manipulating her for their own benefit, and possibly using her as a puppet in her frailty, and it didn’t seem it was going to end anytime soon.

    That seat needs new blood and energy.

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      RIP and condolences to the family. But yeah I agree. ll the seats need that. We need regular, young, honest, decent people running for office and tossing out the out of touch fossils that have sold out to too many favors and donations from giant corpos and billionaires.

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        Good luck finding honest decent people, seems like only the psychotic grifters are interested in politics. All the decent honest people run grassroots orgs it seems and they can’t get the funding to do politics or are interested in helping directly not in fighting dinosaurs on policy

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          Decent people want to solve problems. They may disagree on what is a problem and they may disagree on the solution but they at least have the intent to solve a problem when they see it. Unfortunately while politics SHOULD be about solving problems these days its primary purpose is playing power games.

          It’s why so many fresh Representatives and even Senators start out with big plans and enthusiasm. They see a problem that they want to solve. It’s also why they are mostly ineffective. They arrive on The Hill and quickly realize that solving problems isn’t really what their peers want to do. So their either abandon their plans or start “going along to get along” and get co-opted into the game.

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            Unironically this would help. The ones enforcing regulatory capture are the ones who have been in their positions the longest.

            If the corporations have to constantly introduce themselves to the new politicians, it greatly increases the cost and lowers the lifetime value of the money they’re spending on lobbying.

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              It might help, but not in isolation, imo. I think there is value to both having new people with new ideas as well as having people with knowledge of how institutions work. If you have entirely new representatives every term, then everyone is learning things anew (from the corporate lobbyists who are their same jobs for every legislative session). If we did away with private money in politics and publicly funded campaigns, then I think the case for strict term limits is stronger

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                I mean obviously the best solution is to remove private money entirely. It’s disgustingly biased against the majority of citizens.

                A one term limit is silly, for the reason you mention. But 3-4 seems plenty to get a mix of seasoned representatives and new ideas.

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          This had been implemented in some places, and it’s only caused corruption to go up and the quality of politicians to go down. Term limits aren’t the silver bullet we need, they’re actually bad.

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          I’m for term limits but one term is a bit short. Like with any job, it takes some time to really learn the way the system works and to be effective in the position.

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          We limited the presidency to two terms. As a thought experiment, do you think Trump could have beaten Obama?

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            Nope. I also don’t think trump could have beaten clinton prior to Obama. I think trump was a reaction to Obama.

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      gouche

      Gauche, French for left, because left handed people are awkward according to the French, who we took the idea from (but at least they’re not sinister).

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      Ya this and Biden both seem like elder abuse to me.

      I get Stan Lee vibes from American politics

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            I understand where you’re coming from, but you don’t need to have lived the life to empathise with people who lived the life. Biden seems to be pretty spry for an 80 year old, with most of his problems being problems he’s had his entire life, rather than new things that are coming up now that he’s almost 80.

            The question right now is who can replace Biden? He’ll be term-limited out in 2028, and Trump or his kids will be around to tap the MAGA movement. Now is the time to replace Biden, and yet the only people who are running against him on my side of the aisle is an anti-vax almost MAGA idiot who is 69 years old himself, and a 71 year old woman I’ve never heard of until now, and a convicted felon, who, UNLIKE the clowns over on Team Red, is NOWHERE near sniffing any qualification to be considered a major candidate. Hell, Biden isn’t even interested in shifting gears on his Veep, meaning the person with the largest chance of getting the Dem nomination in 2028 is Kamala Harris, who will be 63 when she starts her term in office, and is as huge of a question mark as anyone else on the Dem side. I think this is a huge part of why Biden is running in 2020 rather than handing things off. Nobody is rising the ranks below him. Nobody is making the effort to get themselves in front of Americans, and speak to issues that affect ALL Americans, and thus we don’t have a ready POTUS candidate. If that isn’t fixed by 2028, even if Biden wins in 2024, we’re going to leave an opportunity for a Trump to slide into office then.

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          He is fine, and I can’t see Trump as president again. I might have a mental break if he gets elected again, but it would be great to get some younger candidates.

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    Diane Feinstein: literally dying of old age

    Also Diane Feinstein: I’m still fit for office!

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      Although Diane Feinstein died this morning she has decided to tough it out and will continue to serve her remaining term on the senate.

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          Its always the late summer months when it comes to ominous predictions about a persons death or the end of the world. Why is it never March? Im not even joking Ive been an occasional user of /x/ for years now and every late spring/early summer the 'this coming fall something ambiguous and really bad is gonna happen and change the world forever/kill us all I can see the future for reals." post start up. And they pop up every year without fail. I guess theres always gonna be some kiddo who sees them for the first time and thinks 'oh shit its probably not gonna happen… but just in case I should call my parents and tell them I love them around then".

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    Thank fuck. She was such a fucking piece of shit to be hogging her office like that when she was clearly too old and senile. Good riddance!

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      Can’t make her own decisions so needed to give power of attorney to her daughter, but can make decisions that would impact millions of Americans and international politics

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      The most based take here. Get these old fucks that couldnt possibly represent us out. Term limits and age limits are needed badly, and these fossils need to get the fuck out of office and let new blood in

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        Not a fan of term limits, but age limits absolutely. Once you’re old enough to get social security, your time as an elected or appointed official is done. And no, we should not allow people to run who will age out while in office.

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          65 is way too low, especially an effective 59 while running. Just make it 80, with an effective 74 for candidates. There are plenty of highly capable 70 year olds.

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            Sure there are plenty of capable 70 year olds, but mid to late 70s is where dramatic health changes is very short periods of time and diminished mental capacity starts to be commonplace. 65 as an age limit to run (meaning the oldest senators could be 71) makes a lot of sense.

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              I feel like any lower than absolutely necessary is a problem, because of how important gaining power within the Senate is. Its uncommon to become a senator before age 50 (currently 10 are under 50), and it can take 2-3 terms before you get to be head of committees. I think you could make the hard limit 75 to run, with anyone over 70 subject to some sort of yearly test both physical and mental, the results of which are public. 75 because they’ll still retire at age 80 that way. As long as they can prove competency, we should let the most experienced people take the reins.

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      It was painfully apparent she was confused after returning to the Senate earlier in the year. This is a clear-cut case of manipulation. Also elder abuse.

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      I’m just going to throw this out there: if she was too old and senile, was she actually in control or was she being controlled?

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    I’m getting really sick of these “icons for women in politics” dying from age-related conditions in office.

    Every year I watch RGB retroactively destroy her own legacy by having refused to retire when she should have.

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      Well I suppose RGB could have retired under Obama, but we know how McConnell treated Obama’s nominees

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      Let’s be clear though, she isn’t the one causing these evils. That blame lies squarely on Republicans.

      I believe there were several things in the last year of Obama’s term that should’ve happened, but because of how sure everyone was that Clinton was going to win, they decided it wouldn’t be worth it. I think RBG expected to retire until Clinton. And well, we know how that went.

      I also suspect that their personality which led them to becoming trailblazers for women , and refusing to take no for an answer, is why they didn’t retire earlier. Their whole thing was not giving into people who didn’t want them there. That attitude became detrimental in their old age.

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        Blaming Republicans for causing evils is like blaming lions for eating other animals. Of course they’re going to. Of course. It’s up to Democrats, and all the rest of us, to deal with that.

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          Of course, but the problem is still the lions, and when we have the opportunity to, we should evict them. It is up to us to be the adults in the room. So just shouldn’t forget that our first and foremost goal is to get more adults in here.

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          Republicans aren’t an unstoppable force of nature. Republicans overturned Roe. Republicans have made abortions illegal. That is absolutely the Republicans fault.

          Democrats should’ve done more. They should’ve pushed back harder against the Republicans stealing Garland’s seat, and they should’ve convinced RBG it would be safer for her to retire. I can understand why they didn’t, but that doesn’t change that they should’ve.

          Let me put it this way, if you don’t mind a corny superhero analogy. If innocent people die when villains attack, the heroes did fail to save them, and are responsible for their deaths in a sense. But the villains who actually attacked are far, far more responsible. While chastising the heroes we shouldn’t forget to damn the villains, and prepare for a counterattack.

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    I imagine Mitch McConnell isn’t too far behind.

    I get it, aging sucks, but it’s part of the deal. You can’t live forever and there is a time to move on.

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      Now imagine the terrifying future where there are expensive treatments available that allow these toxic humans to live much much longer. Allowing the power brokers whose viewpoints were cemented many decades ago to continue to rule over others

      The idea that society progresses one funeral at a time has some merit.

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        You know that while the treatments would be more expensive than anything an avg American could afford, for some reason it would be covered by the congressional medical plan. Just like Trump got experimental treatments for covid.

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      What I don’t understand is why these people don’t just retire? Being that rich, you can kick up your feet and sip margaritas all day for the rest of your life, why work till you die if you don’t have to??

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      when i saw midsommar (2019) i was struck by how i kind of wanted to do the cliff thing before i got super old

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    I find it sad that instead of spending her golden years with her husband and daughter that she instead spent them being wheeled around the Capital Building desperately trying to pretend that she was still healthy and relevant.

    Hopefully this incentivizes a few more geriatrics to go home instead of spending their final years “on the hill”.

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      Had she retired on time, she would have been remembered as a trailblazer instead of a stubborn, senile, roadblock. The general public would have felt sadness instead of relief.

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        Lets be real, the bitch raised the confederate flag in san francisco multiple times, history will not be kind.

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              The Confederate flag, which was torn down twice this week by groups who consider it offensive, will not fly again above Civic Center plaza, Mayor Feinstein says. The mayor made her decision yesterday, after Supervisor Doris Ward asked her not to replace the flag. “I want to make it very clear that my decision is based only on Supervisor Ward’s request,” Feinstein said. “I’m not impressed because some group shinnies up a flag pole and tears down a flag.”

              Over a decade of the people demanding it be removed, and when Feinstein finally caves, she still had to be a dick about and talk down to people pushing for progress…

              She’s been a conservative her whole life, she just didn’t want an R next to her name.

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                Her argument is that it’s a part of our history. Removing it and pretending it’s not is whitewashing.

                It’s important to remember where we came from to appreciate where we are and understand the mistakes of the past so that we don’t repeat them.

                Plus, it sounds like nobody was charged for climbing the pole to cut it down, so let’s just make that a new tradition.

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                  What a bullshit argument, placing that flag infront of a government building is an endorsement of the views the flag represents. The flag belongs only in a textbook with a large disclaimer explaining that it is a symbol of hate and racism. Do you see germany with swastika flags at their capital? No.

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                  They should also fly the swastika in Germany since it’s “part of their history” according to that logic. Italy should wave the fascist flag from Kindom of Italy as well.

                  San Francisco was never even in the fucking confederacy. What possibly reason is there to fly it (except to use it to gain political points with racists)?

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            It was part of a historical flag display, showing a progression of 18 different flags flown in the US. I fully understand and agree with the opposition to ever flying a Confederate flag, especially on public grounds, but I do recognize that an exhibit of historical flags is a far different situation from some racist southern guvnah’ insisting on flying it out of pride.

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                I’m not disagreeing with that. They asked for context, I gave it. I think it was dumb as hell and disrespectful to fly it, but it still would be intentional blindness to not see that including the Confederate flag in a historical exhibit is different than some asshole proudly flying it because it reflects his shitty beliefs.

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                My first post on Lemmy, instantly downvoted despite being factually correct. Ahhhh… feels like Reddit already. Home sweet home. 🏡👨🏻‍🌾

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                  No one cares about the narrow pedantic bullshit you’ve built your argument around. Its a racist flag, trying to justify it just makes you a confederacy apologist.

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      I think the same about all these geriatric politicians. McConnell, pelosi, Biden, Trump, whoever. These are already successful (ish?) people who could be retired living the good life. But instead they stay in the shitshow holding on to power as long as possible. I don’t get it.

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        Don’t forget fucking Grassley who, after the death of Feinstein is now the oldest sitting senator at age 90.

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    American politics is so screwed up. She didn’t step down when she should have, and now the majority party isn’t major or senior enough to confirm judges until at least the 2024 elections. (Which was probably the whole reason they were doing Weekend at Bernie’s with her.)

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      Doesn’t this just mean Newsom appoints a replacement to finish her term and then they can get back to confirmation process? I seem to recall that was the reason so many called for her to resign, she was holding things up because she was too ill to sit for the confirmation process.

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        Yes I believe Newsom can and will replace her until a special election (or maybe 2024 not sure).

        Senator Feinstein was the ranking member on the Senate Judiciary Committee and I’m pretty sure member of several other key committees like Appropriations, Intelligence, and Rules.

        Her replacement would likely take over the former Senator’s committee assignments. However, committee assignments can be re-shuffled depending on the new Senator’s seniority, expertise, interests, and needs of the party. Committee leadership positions like Feinstein’s ranking member role on Judiciary are usually determined by overall seniority within the party. So a new Senator would not automatically take over her ranking member spot, though they may request it.

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          My understanding is that filling the seats in the various committees left vacant by Feinstein’s death requires a vote by the full Senate. Which can be filibustered. Because of course it fucking can.

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        My understanding is that the GOP does not have to concede the judiciary committee seat, putting the committee at a draw and a deadlock.

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    Imagine if she had mentored and sponsored a younger replacement in 2000 and then retired in 2010. Where would we be?

    Now that Skeletor has died with no one obvious to replace her, the Judiciary Committee will probably grind to a halt when it comes to confirming judges.

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      She was a public servant that worked for a long time on your behalf.

      California’s governor will name a replacement for the remainder of her term.

      Democrats no longer have a clear majority in the Senate. This has all sorts of complications. I believe it will still take 60 votes to replace her in Judiciary which Republicans won’t give them. Probably the main reason she stuck around to begin with. Biden has to be careful with his nominees if he can get through any at all. Gawd help us if a SCOTUS member dies. The call for Menendez to step down will quiet a bit.

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        She was a public servant that worked for a long time on your behalf.

        She worked a long time and was obviously better than the GOP, but staying on for so long was at best a lack of vision and at worse an egotistical decision that will bite us in the ass. All these geriatric ass politicians who don’t mentor, grow the bench with the next generation, and retire when it is time to are leading us to the situation. This is going to end up being RBG all over again.

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          RBG all over again

          This is peanuts compared to RBG. Feinstein refusing to retire will lead to some inconvenience in the senate and the judiciary committee. RBG refusing to retire fucked the Supreme Court for decades to come.

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          She was a piece of shit freedom hater, one of the worst Senators ever. Good riddance to that old bag.

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            I honestly don’t know a lot about her so I don’t know what you’re referring to. I assume gun rights?

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              That plus carte blanche approval of all forms of warrantless mass surveillance, violations of our 4th Amendment rights, being a pro-corporate oligarchy puppet etc

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        That last paragraph is all sorts of reasons why she should have retired 15 years ago (at 75!) When voters would have easily voted in her (possibly even hand picked!) protege.

        We’re now left a mess because someone with an ego didn’t retire when they could have. Wait this is starting to sound familiar. Thankfully the consequences aren’t likely to be as dire this time.

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          15 years would mean that you would miss her vote for Elena Kagan and Sonia Sotomayor, plus Obamacare. We can play what if all day long.

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            Can we play what if all day long? Exactly what do you think a Californian congressperson was going to do when presented with Obamas candidates and health care? I’m certain enough to bet my car they would have approved it, especially if they would have been a tiebreaker.

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            CA has only elected democratic (vaguely to the left of the median Democrat, if fairly rank-and-file) senators since 1992. As long as she didn’t leave it to chance and die during her term (…) while she coincided with the honestly fairly moderate-but-still-republican Gov Schwarzenegger, she could have had a hand in picking her replacement.

            As others (including myself) have noted, any Democrat-led SCOTUS nomination or major piece of Dem legislation would have passed more-or-less the same. I’d be curious if there was some analysis of where a particular Dem Senator from CA was a “swing vote”. Meanwhile now we’re in a vacancy and her missing vote definitely matters (again, thankfully likely with less impact than RBG’s).

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        Gotta love a system where nonagenarians have to be dragged half-aware around DC and openly corrupt politicians need to stay in office because the other side is so fucking bad.

        This is clearly the best system of government ever made.

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        Republicans were objecting to a temporary replacement, but if they refuse to give someone a committee seat due to vacancy, Democrats will just change the rule to simple majority. Feinstein could have ended this stalemate at any time by retiring, but the ghouls around her didn’t want to surrender their power.

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            The Senate can change their rules at any time, they just need 60 votes or to invoke the “nuclear option” and pass with 50. Democrats have been reluctant to do so because it makes changing rules easier in the future and for some reason they don’t think the party with the majority should be able to pass things with just a majority.

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    I don’t cheer death, but this shouldn’t be allowed. At least we can move things forward from the headache her (really those around her, lets be real) refusal to resign.

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      It shouldn’t be allowed, by having term limits for all members of Congress and possibly an age cap. I would be OK with an age cap of 75 for anyone running for election, with exceptions for those who are already in office and surpass that age. After their term ends past age 75 they must retire. Term limits… maybe 2 or 3 terms, not sure

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          Make it more scientifically oriented, peg it to the average age of noticeable mental decline caused by aging, at present that’s still mid to late 60s but it’ll feel less “arbitrary”

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            Unfortunately, anything that isn’t a hard number is just going to turn into a political cluster fuck.

            “What does ‘noticable’ mean? Let’s argue this for 30 years and never come to a decision.”

            The best way to “future” proof it would be to make the age get lower every decade until another constitutional amendment is passed.

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              Well with mental decline there’s actual diagnostic standards that can be applied to determine the statistical average.

              Like I said, we already have a general range, and a more precise number which can flex as statistics change wouldn’t be that much harder to achieve.

              I believe putting it under standards of medical and mental diagnosis protects it once it’s set in as a norm, a number is just a number, but a calculated number based on medical statistics exposes anyone challenging it to accusations of trying to weaken the government by opening the door for people in mental decline to cling on to power.

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                Well with mental decline there’s actual diagnostic standards that can be applied to determine the statistical average.

                Agree. There are actual cognitive tests that exists today and that’s used by medical personnel.

                They could be purpose to test those in office as they get older, the same way that pilots have to get tested medically to maintain their license.

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              Well with mental decline there’s actual diagnostic standards that can be applied to determine the statistical average.

              Like I said, we already have a general range, and a more precise number which can flex as statistics change wouldn’t be that much harder to achieve.

              I believe putting it under standards of medical and mental diagnosis protects it once it’s set in as a norm, a number is just a number, but a calculated number based on medical statistics exposes anyone challenging it to accusations of trying to weaken the government by opening the door for people in mental decline to cling on to power.

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        IMO we cap those running to where you cant run if your term would end if your age would be over 70. Ex: presidents can run at age 66, but not 67 because their age would put them at 71 at the end of their term

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      When the life in question is holding back an entire country out of sheer stubbornness, and in the absence of functional policy to deal with that situation, death is literally the only thing we can hope for.

      Cheer away. You didn’t put us in this situation, she did.

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        The problem was that replacing her on the judiciary committee will and would have taken 60 votes, meaning the Republicans will simply refuse to seat anyone and no more judicial appointments until the next election cycle. That’s why she couldn’t retire when it became necessary. She literally clung on in order to avoid Republicans further fucking up the country.

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          She clung on because, like most members of Congress, she craved power. If she had retired last term, we wouldn’t be in this position. Fuck her

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          She should have retired 15 years ago at 75. She helped create this problem.

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      Just imagine the headache of having to replace her now. She should have retired like 30 years ago.